India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:01 am

Amazing lower order heroics from the Aussies. Shouldn't really lose from here on a day 5 pitch.
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby sussexpob » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:15 am

India don't look interested in the chase. Looks like they plan to bat out the day
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:02 am

A couple of early wickets. But still, it's only a day to bat. Must be possible if they all stay with the plan.
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby alfie » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:16 am

Losing Kohli last ball before lunch making survival for two more sessions tougher. They've been in basically full defence mode and that doesn't really suit most of their players.

Still seven more wickets means Australia have work to do. Tiring bowlers and a wearing ball...no guarantees.

Back on now. Can't see Pant just blocking...
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby alfie » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:24 am

Fine session for India :salute Pant and Jaiswal batted through and Australia resorted to having Marnus bowl a stupid over of 120k bouncers before the tea break.

Still some 40 odd overs to go - and a new ball for the last 12 of them ; but with 7 wickets still to take and the pace men all getting a bit weary it might even be time to think about not exhausting them of too much energy prior to a potential decider in Sydney ?

I reckon they'll go hard on resumption for a bit ; but if breaks don't come soon the air might go out of this.

Let us see if that works as a jinx ;)
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby GarlicJam » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:07 am

Good jinxing Alfie. 3 quick wickets - terrible choice of shot by Pant, followed by a great lifter from Boland and then a fine catch by Smith at slip to Lyon.
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby alfie » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:26 am

GarlicJam wrote:Good jinxing Alfie. 3 quick wickets - terrible choice of shot by Pant, followed by a great lifter from Boland and then a fine catch by Smith at slip to Lyon.



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Indeed. If they get the last four I expect a nice bottle of scotch from team management...

Pant spoiled a fine innings for his team with that brainless dismissal. Head is bowling ? Good , let him keep on - saves facing proper dangerous stuff , no ? Why try to hit him out of the ground ? Re-ignited an Australian attack that was looking almost resigned : they're all over them now.

Still 4 to get. Tense finish coming ?
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby GarlicJam » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:47 am

There is bound to be hundreds of thousands of words written about Jaiswal's dismissal.

No doubt correct in my opinion, but I am sure many supporters of India will be up in arms.
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby bigfluffylemon » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:28 am

India couldn't hold on, but a good test. Could have easily gone the other way in India had been more disciplined with bat and catching.

Surely Sharma is done? No runs and he looks pretty unfit too...
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby alfie » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:33 am

One of my Indian friends is unhappy about Deep's dismissal as well ! Sometimes the technology is a bit vague but I don't think any injustices were done today.

Indian fans should be annoyed about a couple of bad bits of batting , if anything. Australia would have been disappointed not to win that : they arguably made it hard for themselves by being just a little timid around setting the last day target ; but worked hard and got it done today. 2-1 it is.

Not writing India off yet : but they need to find something in a hurry if they are to hit back in Sydney.

I'm giving Cummins PoTM. And a huge sympathy award to Bumrah who did not deserve to be a loser...
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby mikesiva » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:10 am

Australia 234 all out

Labuschagne 70
Cummins 41
Lyon 41

Bumrah 5-57
Siraj 3-70

Target 340
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby mikesiva » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:13 am

India 155 all out

Jaiswal 84

Cummins 3-28
Boland 3-39

Australia won by 184 runs.
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby sussexpob » Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:33 pm

alfie wrote:One of my Indian friends is unhappy about Deep's dismissal as well ! Sometimes the technology is a bit vague but I don't think any injustices were done today


On the contrary, I think India have a right to be very upset by these decisions. You can take either in isolation and make grounds for the decision made, but you cannot explain both together without serious questions about the motivation of the umpire. In the first, the umpire decided the technology was wrong based on what he could see and gave it out; in the second, he decided contrary to what he could see that the technology was right and should be backed 100% despite the visual evidence.

If he is consistent to either approach, you end with one dismissal. Quite how in the space of a few balls he decides Snicko can be wrong, then decides its infallible.... it only makes sense if you view it in the scope of bias or incompetence.
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby meninblue » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:12 pm

Australia deserved to win. The way India played deserved to lose. No ifs and buts. Very simple it is.
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Re: India tour of Australia (Nov 22, 2024 - Jan 03, 2025)

Postby sussexpob » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:20 pm

GarlicJam wrote:There is bound to be hundreds of thousands of words written about Jaiswal's dismissal. No doubt correct in my opinion, but I am sure many supporters of India will be up in arms.


My problem with Snicko is well documented over the years here, but my critique is exclusively to the fact that the type of sounds and the inability to differentiate between what is registered; but in this case, there is absolutely no scientific reason why Snicko would completely fail to register a sound at all. It literally makes no sense at all. The operator of the tech + the oscillation shown on the footage both show the system was picking up a low amplitude ambient sound - so we know the microphone and system was working. We also know this because the same microphone registered sounds when Deep was given out - so there is no failure of the technology here.

You could say that the cutoff on the resonance filter was aggressively cutting around the fundamental frequency of the sound produced, but for two reasons this would still produce a sound registered on the oscillator - firstly, because any sound of this nature is going to produce harmonic frequencies of significant enough amplitudes to register all the way between 0 to 10,000 hz at the very least, and secondly the ambient sound frequency was not being filtered as we know, so we can conclude with almost 100% certainty that the majority of fundamental or harmonic frequencies in the high amplitude range were not being filtered.

Even in the frankly impossible scenario that the strike of the bat or glove made the exact same range of frequency of sound as the ambient noise meaning both in isolation cannot be seperated by analysis, two identical sound sources with identical frequencies would by the superposition principle create an amplitude that is the sum of both sound waves - or in other words, two exact same sounds add together in loudness, and you would very much notice that on the oscillator as a peak after the strike on the glove.

The only scientific conclusion is..... the ball did not hit anything.
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