There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

[rich1uk]

To be honest, England would be mad to make any changes to their ODI side at this stage. It's a relatively settled side that have both set and chased big targets, any suggestion that we alter that based on IPL form is bonkers.

For me, the only question is do we play one or two spinners. Personally I'd have both Ali and Rashid in the side to give the bowling a better balance.

i didn't say we should alter it based on IPL form, i said i wondered if following a run of poor form whether he would be under any pressure IF he also doesn't score many runs in the 5 ODIs and 2 games he will now be playing for Surrey before the CT starts

like i said i have said all along i would be amazed if its not Roy and Hales opening in the CT but last i checked this is a discussion forum and i thought given the news today about him not now going back to Gujarat it was worth mentioning ...

[Arthur Crabtree]

Pretty sure Roy's spot is secure. For this summer at least. Buttler's form has been more of an issue. Morgan before that.

i never said i would drop Roy, i've said all along i expect him and Hales to be opening in the CT

Wasn't pushing the point, just responding to Bhaves post.

[rich1uk]

Pretty sure Roy's spot is secure. For this summer at least. Buttler's form has been more of an issue. Morgan before that.

i never said i would drop Roy, i've said all along i expect him and Hales to be opening in the CT

Wasn't pushing the point, just responding to Bhaves post.

ah ok, i have stopped reading his "contributions"

[Arthur Crabtree]

like i said i have said all along i would be amazed if its not Roy and Hales opening in the CT but last i checked this is a discussion forum and i thought given the news today about him not now going back to Gujarat it was worth mentioning ...

Fair enough. Maybe his IPL team isn't pushing to have him back. Don't know how it works. He played well in the India ODIs though so it would be odd if Gujarat lost faith in him so quickly.

[Dr Cricket]

To be honest, England would be mad to make any changes to their ODI side at this stage. It's a relatively settled side that have both set and chased big targets, any suggestion that we alter that based on IPL form is bonkers.

For me, the only question is do we play one or two spinners. Personally I'd have both Ali and Rashid in the side to give the bowling a better balance.

i didn't say we should alter it based on IPL form, i said i wondered if following a run of poor form whether he would be under any pressure IF he also doesn't score many runs in the 5 ODIs and 2 games he will now be playing for Surrey before the CT starts

like i said i have said all along i would be amazed if its not Roy and Hales opening in the CT but last i checked this is a discussion forum and i thought given the news today about him not now going back to Gujarat it was worth mentioning ...

you changed your tune from few months ago.

[sussexpob]

Jason Roy is a fantastic player for England, and his form going back to 2016 in ODIs would make only a CRAZY person suggest his under pressure of some form. A guy averages 45-50 at over a run a ball for 18 months, and a handful of bad matches means he wont go to a world cup?

He'd have to go through a disasterous run of two-three series to get dropped.

[sussexpob]

Im with splinters mainly. The batting for England doesnt need to be touched, maybe Id look at 1 or 2 chances with the ball based on form, but I look at that top 6 fo England for the first time in my life and think if they play well, how do you beat it. Its firepower personified. Lets not tinker with that or be reactive.

Guys like Butttler or Roy will go through bad form. They play high risk games, it wont come off all the time. But at least England are setup to finally win major tournaments, they have the capacity there.

[Dr Cricket]

Jason Roy shouldn't be dropped and will be a starter for the clear future, but it was the right decision for him to be picked for Ireland considering he still new to the English set up and need to confirm his place for a long time.

Just found it ironic that rich was saying the same stuff I did couple of months ago.

[rich1uk]

Jason Roy is a fantastic player for England, and his form going back to 2016 in ODIs would make only a CRAZY person suggest his under pressure of some form. A guy averages 45-50 at over a run a ball for 18 months, and a handful of bad matches means he wont go to a world cup?

He'd have to go through a disasterous run of two-three series to get dropped.

i just raised it on the back of a story that he had changed his plans to go back to the IPL based on struggling for form and that we have alot of competition for places

FFS no need to crucify me for raising a story that was current and relevant to an england player in a thread that was started to discuss england selection issues

[Arthur Crabtree]

The change for me in the top six would be to get Buttler in at four. Maybe Stokes at five.

The most pressure in the side should be on Mo, who hasn't been scoring runs (though its a hit or bust position in the team at seven) but his form has turned a little. He is economical but hardly ever takes a wicket. I've never seen LL bowl, and I think he used to be a leggie who converted to orthodox, but it's perhaps more realistic if he was putting heat on Mo's spot (though arguably Dawson is ahead of him currently).

Of the rest, Woakes is a cert, then it's two of Willey, Wood, Plunkett and Ball. Probably Willey then Wood or Plunkett. Perhaps the selectors might have looked at other options over the past few years, though the bowlers have been operating on unhelpful pitches so the stats are inevitable unimpressive..

[Arthur Crabtree]

Getting into the squad looks much more achievable, with Bairstow never meriting a regular place. Hard to drop Billings when he's hardly had a chance, even less so in the middle order.

[ianp1970]

The change for me in the top six would be to get Buttler in at four. Maybe Stokes at five.

Don't think the skipper will go for that AC!

[Arthur Crabtree]

Better to get the best player in higher than six.

[ianp1970]

If we reach the 30th over with only 1 or 2 down, then promote Jos up the order. Wouldn't want to see him coming in at 80-2 in the 15th though!

[Arthur Crabtree]

That's where I want him batting It feels unnecessarily inhibiting to see him as someone who bats at the end.