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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby meninblue » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:20 pm

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:27 pm

Rich do you honestly think england batted well so far.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby rich1uk » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:40 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Rich do you honestly think england batted well so far.


have i said that because i dont think i have ?

3 of the 5 wickets to fall were self-inflcted imo

but it comes back to what i have said, in that india are a better team than us in these conditions

having a spin attack which imo is below test quality allowed india to score more than they should have, that then meant we were immediately under pressure going out to bat with 450+ on the board against us

we have a batting lineup that imo doesn't play spin very well and india have been able to pile on the pressure with better quality spinners being able to restrict scoring

india being able to bat first on a "better" pitch then able to bowl once the pitch has started to give more assistance has just really emphasised that gap
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:44 pm

Think Sussex point was correct yesterday on the spinners.
They should attack more instead of defending since they not really doing either when defending whereas if they attack they can at least take wickets or look threatening and probably concede the same amount of runs anyway.
far better than just giving india runs easily while batting.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:03 pm

actually looking at the highlights it is pretty clear that Ali got his lengths right today and was way more threatening and he ended up with 3/98.
with probably 3/30 today.
was pretty clear that the indian were not able to play him of the back foot today and that small difference made it more difficult to face him and brings LBW or edge to slip into play.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Durhamfootman » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:09 pm

amazing how a daft run out can change a game. It appears from the scorecard that England were proceeding steadily up to that point, then suddenly it becomes carnage. Even though it's only day 2, it feels like game over already. Hard to see how England can claw their way back into the game. An object lesson in how to lose a test match in an hour.

Have to hope that BS and JB can put on a big partnership. Nothing else will do.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:33 pm

lol newman is an idiot.
Well, that's just not out. I don't care what any DRS apologists tell me, that is just not out.

Everything I have ever learnt and seen in cricket tells me he was way too far down the crease to be out. And if technology is telling me otherwise then it's wrong.

Anyway, England in deep deep trouble.

this was Ali wicket.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby meninblue » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:16 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:lol newman is an idiot.
Well, that's just not out. I don't care what any DRS apologists tell me, that is just not out.

Everything I have ever learnt and seen in cricket tells me he was way too far down the crease to be out. And if technology is telling me otherwise then it's wrong.

Anyway, England in deep deep trouble.

this was Ali wicket.



Manjrekar is idiot, Naseer is idiot, now Newman also idiot :lol:

Btw, what happened which dismissal are you talking about.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:23 pm

Adi wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:lol newman is an idiot.
Well, that's just not out. I don't care what any DRS apologists tell me, that is just not out.

Everything I have ever learnt and seen in cricket tells me he was way too far down the crease to be out. And if technology is telling me otherwise then it's wrong.

Anyway, England in deep deep trouble.

this was Ali wicket.



Manjrekar is idiot, Naseer is idiot, now Newman also idiot :lol:

Btw, what happened which dismissal are you talking about.

The one that hit Ali so low that if it hit Ali pad first it was hitting middle stump on the middle.
bit odd for a guy claiming Technology is always right and then stating Technology is wrong and no one can tell me otherwise when england get a decision he doesn't like. :facepalm

Actually looking at the dismissal Ali wasn't really that forward, looks like he was in no man land and pad was just front of the bat, a sloppy mistake but not sure how that was a bad decision or how Technology is wrong understand if the ball was high and it was 50-50 if it was hitting the bails, but it was front of the stumps and ankle high with it making it very likely of being out if it was hitting the pad first.
how he thinks technology was wrong is beyond me especially for a guy that supposedly likes DRS so much.

Seen some bad DRS calls and odd predictions but this wasn't one of them.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:33 pm

Adi wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:lol newman is an idiot.
Well, that's just not out. I don't care what any DRS apologists tell me, that is just not out.

Everything I have ever learnt and seen in cricket tells me he was way too far down the crease to be out. And if technology is telling me otherwise then it's wrong.

Anyway, England in deep deep trouble.

this was Ali wicket.



Manjrekar is idiot, Naseer is idiot, now Newman also idiot :lol:

Btw, what happened which dismissal are you talking about.


Quite funny manjrekar makes the respect comment about elders calling all the shots and seniority when Kohli was the one that said no to tendulkar using a review in the 2011 world cup :facepalm
Doubt india players in the current team still think like that especially with Kohli in charge suspect he will encourage all member to speak what they actually think and not worry about what the elder players or senior players think.
Don't think I remember calling manjrekar an idiot here unless you been reading stuff on Manjrekar on the net after cook didn't review in the first test.
Think I remember reading the seniority aspect of the dressing room was removed after greg chappell got sacked, Dhoni wasn't really a fan of it and the new generation of indian people are not really likely to be quiet if they feel something is not right and they probably will say and give a counter argument if it is needed in the dressing room or in the middle.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby meninblue » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:00 pm

I think technology can help avoid blunders atleast. So DRS is welcome.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby sussexpob » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:01 pm

Adi wrote:now Newman also idiot :lol:



Newman's always been an idiot.
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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:01 pm

Adi wrote:I think technology can help avoid blunders atleast. So DRS is welcome.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby Dr Cricket » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:08 pm

sussexpob wrote:
Adi wrote:now Newman also idiot :lol:



Newman's always been an idiot.

yep be interesting how he thinks that isn't out apart from the old rule of if a batsman comes forward the ball can never be hitting the stumps especially one that was so low that it was impossible not to hit the stumps.
Even bob Willis thinks Ali is out.

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Re: 2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam on Nov 17-21,

Postby meninblue » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:14 pm

sussexpob wrote:
Adi wrote:now Newman also idiot :lol:



Newman's always been an idiot.


I dont know much about him. Paul Newman , correct?
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