England v Pakistan ODI/T20i Series - Aug 24 - Sept 7

[Aidan11]

Another win for England but not the record-breaking match of last time.

[Aidan11]

Tricky one for MoM.

Rashid, Stokes or Bairstow.

[Aidan11]

Jonny B gets the nod.

[Making_Splinters]

Strength and depth on show there. Rest the guy whose just made the quickest half century by an England batsman and the replacement makes a match winning 61. Drop in a second choice bowler and he picks up two wickets.

I'm ready for the moment this England side completely messes up, but by heck they are a damn good side. How many of this side could you make a justifiable argument that they wouldn't get into an all time side?

[The Professor]

Jonny B gets the nod.

Would have gone for Stokes.

[alfie]

Strength and depth on show there. Rest the guy whose just made the quickest half century by an England batsman and the replacement makes a match winning 61. Drop in a second choice bowler and he picks up two wickets.

I'm ready for the moment this England side completely messes up, but by heck they are a damn good side. How many of this side could you make a justifiable argument that they wouldn't get into an all time side?

Certainly looking good.

My only reservation is that this Pakistan ODI outfit are pretty dire. Though perhaps that is partly because they're being bossed by a very good England... Their fielding is awful though by any standards.

Will be interesting to see if England can take this ODI form to India

[Gingerfinch]

Jonny B gets the nod.

Would have gone for Stokes.

I presume Bairstow got it for almost seeing us over the line?

[meninblue]

Strength and depth on show there. Rest the guy whose just made the quickest half century by an England batsman and the replacement makes a match winning 61. Drop in a second choice bowler and he picks up two wickets.

I'm ready for the moment this England side completely messes up, but by heck they are a damn good side. How many of this side could you make a justifiable argument that they wouldn't get into an all time side?

Certainly looking good.

My only reservation is that this Pakistan ODI outfit are pretty dire. Though perhaps that is partly because they're being bossed by a very good England... Their fielding is awful though by any standards.

Will be interesting to see if England can take this ODI form to India

I hope they leave their form back in England

[ianp1970]

Not many of mine would make the World fifth or sixth eleven though, shows how abject we have been historically

Slow sports day and teeming down with rain all day, so have spent the afternoon as an All Time ODI (80's onwards) selector...


(Some of the batting all-rounders and/or wicket-keepers would bat higher than listed)

Think the best of England would get well beaten by A-D, and struggle against E

[Arthur Crabtree]

As an England selector, you might be best taking the present team, adding Flintoff and Swann (maybe KP) and hoping up to date strategies will take care of the rest.

[ianp1970]

As an England selector, you might be best taking the present team, adding Flintoff and Swann (maybe KP) and hoping up to date strategies will take care of the rest.

The hypothetical games would have to be played with a combination of old & new equipment/pitches/rules etc.

And be shown on free-to-air TV

[Dr Cricket]

Surely Dhoni will be in team A or B.
Sanga is a part time/semi keeper so they get a extra batsman in the team, for the past 5 yrs he been more of a stopper than keeper.
AB hasn't actually kept much and really the batting difference between dhoni and AB is marginal and they both could be in the same team.
at best Dhoni is a far better odi player than McCullum.
Would have Gilchrist ahead of sanga and AB since I don't actually see them two as a keeper especially in a world sense since they both could get in as a batsman and they don't really need to take the gloves to lengthen the batting.
Really in my Eyes both are fraud in keeping terms, although AB is a natural keeper but is known not to be keen to do it all day and every day since his batting is so great.
Sanga is basically a fraud in my eyes awful keeper and hasn't kept in Test cricket for over a decade or more and was crap when he did it, in odi he tends to be stopper than a keeper, he actually an average keeper and bit surprising he actually kept a lot in odi since sri lanka always had good keeper around so he didn't really have to do the job. Could have just be like Dravid and only kept the job till Sri lanka found a keeper, not sure why he had to keep for most of his career although in the end it didn't matter much since Keeping in ODI isn't that hard or demanding.

Sanga a great batsman, not a great keeper, would be a mockery if he got picked with the gloves especially with Gilchrist and Dhoni being better keepers and excellent batsman in limited over games.

[ianp1970]

Surely Dhoni will be in team A or B.
Sanga is a part time/semi keeper so they get a extra batsman in the team, for the past 5 yrs he been more of a stopper than keeper.
AB hasn't actually kept much and really the batting difference between dhoni and AB is marginal and they both could be in the same team.
at best Dhoni is a far better odi player than McCullum.
Would have Gilchrist ahead of sanga and AB since I don't actually see them two as a keeper especially in a world sense since they both could get in as a batsman and they don't really need to take the gloves to lengthen the batting.
Really in my Eyes both are fraud in keeping terms, although AB is a natural keeper but is known not to be keen to do it all day and every day since his batting is so great.
Sanga is basically a fraud in my eyes awful keeper and hasn't kept in Test cricket for over a decade or more and was crap when he did it, in odi he tends to be stopper than a keeper, he actually an average keeper and bit surprising he actually kept a lot in odi since sri lanka always had good keeper around so he didn't really have to do the job. Could have just be like Dravid and only kept the job till Sri lanka found a keeper, not sure why he had to keep for most of his career although in the end it didn't matter much since Keeping in ODI isn't that hard or demanding.

Sanga a great batsman, not a great keeper, would be a mockery if he got picked with the gloves especially with Gilchrist and Dhoni being better keepers and excellent batsman in limited over games.

I picked my all-time XI as Team A, then pretty much slotted the other players into workable sides. The main idea was to show that England's best players would struggle to be selected.

[Dr Cricket]

Not many of mine would make the World fifth or sixth eleven though, shows how abject we have been historically

Slow sports day and teeming down with rain all day, so have spent the afternoon as an All Time ODI (80's onwards) selector...


(Some of the batting all-rounders and/or wicket-keepers would bat higher than listed)

Think the best of England would get well beaten by A-D, and struggle against E

Not going to lie Ian some of the picking are weird, really looks like you just picked 4 or 5 teams out of thin air and not spent much thought in it of where the players should be batting or in which teams.
For one not sure why Bevan and Dhoni are in the same teams, weird to have 2 finishers in the same team or Gayle batting at 5 with Yuvi at 3, actually turns out that team got 3 finisher in Klusener.

Whereas some teams are very top heavy, Team A might struggle if Kallis batting at 6

Actually England best 11 could beat some of those teams since in my opinion ODI is a lot of strategy and how the players play it/they role then actually having a gun team.
Didn't Australia beat and thrash World 11 5-0 or something and I remember the teams being quite similar that you picked with players batting in weird position or doing things they will never do normally.

[Arthur Crabtree]

As an England selector, you might be best taking the present team, adding Flintoff and Swann (maybe KP) and hoping up to date strategies will take care of the rest.

The hypothetical games would have to be played with a combination of old & new equipment/pitches/rules etc.

And be shown on free-to-air TV :)

the rules change so often no one would know what was going on anyway. Anyone who played in the last fifteen overs would have played in a multitude of PP formats. A few would have had a sub.