4th Test England v Pakistan, The Oval, Aug 11-15

[Dr Cricket]

You can invest in as many all rounders as you want really, providing they can get into the side based on one of their skills. Woakes is in the side as a bowler, not as an all rounder any way.

If Ali has a long term future in the side, he's going to need to be able to get in on the basis of his batting, because we're not going to regularly play 3 pace bowlers and 2 spinners.

how does ali or Stokes get into the team then.
Why does Stokes get a free reign in the side but ali doesn't?

Fact is Stokes doesn't get into the team as a batsman or a bowler.
if Ali the best spinner supposedly then Stokes misses out with him England a weaker team in the batting.

[Dr Cricket]

Terrible overrate by pakistan, surely this isn't good enough.

[Aidan11]

Going to be about 10 short.

[Aidan11]

Severe suspensions for the captain should be given.

[Aidan11]

Bumble says 11 overs to bat for Pakistan.


Has he seen the clock?

[Dr Cricket]

Great knock from Ali under huge pressure when he came to the crease with England in real danger of being blown away.

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Yes top batting.

7 or 8 overs short today how will the scorers get rid of them. A few for the Hales non catch?

icc Fu**d what ever happens they give pakistan a warning and ICC will be crucified for allowing England in the last test and they don't warn pakistan and then people will be moaning anyway.

[Dr Cricket]

Severe suspensions for the captain should be given.

Cook shouldn't even be playing this game if ICC actually followed they own rules.

[backfootpunch]

You can invest in as many all rounders as you want really, providing they can get into the side based on one of their skills. Woakes is in the side as a bowler, not as an all rounder any way.

If Ali has a long term future in the side, he's going to need to be able to get in on the basis of his batting, because we're not going to regularly play 3 pace bowlers and 2 spinners.

We don't exactly have a lot of batsmen waiting in the wings to push them out either

[backfootpunch]

You can invest in as many all rounders as you want really, providing they can get into the side based on one of their skills. Woakes is in the side as a bowler, not as an all rounder any way.

If Ali has a long term future in the side, he's going to need to be able to get in on the basis of his batting, because we're not going to regularly play 3 pace bowlers and 2 spinners.

how does ali or Stokes get into the team then.
Why does Stokes get a free reign in the side but ali doesn't?

Fact is Stokes doesn't get into the team as a batsman or a bowler.
if Ali the best spinner supposedly then Stokes misses out with him England a weaker team in the batting.

We are currently carrying vince and ballance

One of them goes out stokes comes in

Simple really

[Dr Cricket]

True the lack of batsman coming through is crucial considering in another forum they want Ali and stokes both to bat in the top 6 with Rashid coming in and Bairstow at 5.
England will have a big tail if that happens.
with Ali and Stokes getting in because of the batting and not bowling.

[dan08]

True the lack of batsman coming through is crucial considering in another forum they want Ali and stokes both to bat in the top 6 with Rashid coming in and Bairstow at 5.
England will have a big tail if that happens.
with Ali and Stokes getting in because of the batting and not bowling.

Lots of batting depth though with Rashid (10 FC 100s) at 9.

[Making_Splinters]

If you have Stokes and Ali in the top six and Rashid coming in then you only have 10 players in the side.

[Dr Cricket]

If you have Stokes and Ali in the top six and Rashid coming in then you only have 10 players in the side.

did you include Finn.

[Dr Cricket]

True the lack of batsman coming through is crucial considering in another forum they want Ali and stokes both to bat in the top 6 with Rashid coming in and Bairstow at 5.
England will have a big tail if that happens.
with Ali and Stokes getting in because of the batting and not bowling.

Lots of batting depth though with Rashid (10 FC 100s) at 9.

no guarantee he will score runs in Test lets not forget Jadeja got more hundreds than Rashid in FC.

england will have depth for sure but will be very inconsistent with the bat, could see loads of collapses when the ball does a bit.

[Making_Splinters]

If you have Stokes and Ali in the top six and Rashid coming in then you only have 10 players in the side.

did you include Finn.

Ah, that's where he went.

It's quite likely we'll play a side very close to that in India.