sussexpob wrote:Just doesnt make sense to me. Pakistan must have been delighted.
Making_Splinters wrote:I think you can just about argue that batting again this evening was OK, but batting tomorrow is a whole nother kettle of fish. If Pakistan can chase down 489 then they'll chase down 550. With showers predicted England need to ensure they have ball in hand and get wickets.
budgetmeansbudget wrote:Baffling as it was that Cook didn't enforce the follow on, I think it will be even more baffling if they don't bat on this morning for a bit.
Otherwise you've just completely thrown away an innings for little gain.
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sussexpob wrote:Only three teams in the history of the game have won following on, and the key to note in all of these instances is, the team winning was facing a deficit in the first innings of 150 plus runs less than Pakistan. No one has come near to overturning a 400 run first innings deficit being asked to follow on. For a coach to say he is worried about batting on the 5th day when they are as in control of a game as could be hoped....
Well, its pretty much verging on insanity. Incredibly negative cricket from England. If a four man attack plays and one is injured, and another is knackered having bowled 40 overs in a first innings, sure, dont ask to follow on. But if England cant manage to bowl again after a short innings, then they need to sack a few fitness guys in the camp.
Not asking Pakistan to bad again only had the effect of shortening the (albeit long odds) on the draw. Nothing else.
KipperJohn wrote:sussexpob wrote:Only three teams in the history of the game have won following on, and the key to note in all of these instances is, the team winning was facing a deficit in the first innings of 150 plus runs less than Pakistan. No one has come near to overturning a 400 run first innings deficit being asked to follow on. For a coach to say he is worried about batting on the 5th day when they are as in control of a game as could be hoped....
Well, its pretty much verging on insanity. Incredibly negative cricket from England. If a four man attack plays and one is injured, and another is knackered having bowled 40 overs in a first innings, sure, dont ask to follow on. But if England cant manage to bowl again after a short innings, then they need to sack a few fitness guys in the camp.
Not asking Pakistan to bad again only had the effect of shortening the (albeit long odds) on the draw. Nothing else.
England's fitness management, whether it be physical or psychological, has barely been fit for purpose (no pun intended) over the past few years.
At the risk of repeating myself, a player must be assessed as being fit to play 5 full days in advance - nobody knows how any game is going to pan out. England have taken their foot off Pakistan's throat for no obvious purpose. Seeing as they were 120 odd for 8 hardly suggests they would make a record breaking score in their second innings - their top order has looked very flimsy in both games.
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