There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

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After being first selected on the back of no championship record whatever and then predictably failing, it would have been fairest for Morgan to have been told that he had no future in test cricket and for him to concentrate on limited overs. Recently, it seems he has sacrificed a few easy weeks on good money in the IPL in the hope of a test recall.

Hopefully, but regrettably for Morgan, the recall will never come. The century he has just scored was against a poor bowling attack and shouldn't sway the selectors.

[D/L]

No Dernbach in the 20/20 squad.

So they've got something right then

Why drop JD and keep Tim. Their performances with the ball were the same over the winter in T20.

Perhaps the selectors study more than spreadsheets. They may also be aware of Bresnan's batting ability.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Even Surrey have lost faith in Jade after a poor start to the season. Pity really as I think with the right coaching he could be something special.

I agree, but he lacks control and maybe even a cool head. He'll be back for Surrey in limited overs I guess, but they have a lot of options in first class.

[D/L]

Dernbach showed some improvement recently but he was starting from a low base.

Especially in limited over cricket, it's not surprising that a player who only contributes in one discipline, and then only rarely, finds it difficult to hold down a regular place in the side.

[mikesiva]

Am I right in thinking that Carbs has been selected for limited overs squads based on his form in CC thus far whereas when he was a Test player he was not deemed good enough?

I posted this in another thread.

Carberry is no surprise, he scored 100* in a T20 and 150* ( could of been a double hundred with more runs to chase ) in a 40 over game against Moores' Lancs last year.

"It wasn't looking great but I had a chat with Peter Moores and the new selectors and they've made it clear to me that I'm still very much a part of things, which is good to know," Carberry said. "I've not been cast aside. So I'm really looking forward to what lies ahead. Pete's been open and honest with me and where he sees me and has make it clear to me that I've not been put on the scrap heap and that I've still got a big future with England. I'd worked with him before at England A level so I'm used to him and I know the type of guy he is. He made it clear to me that I'm very much a part of things going forward." Carberry struck out at his omission from any one-day cricket post-Ashes, despite an outstanding 2013 in both 40- and 20-over cricket that earned him an initial England call-up. Of his non-selection Carberry told The Guardian, "I don't think it's a cricket reason" and said he received more constructive feedback from the Australian players than England management. Six weeks on from the interview and with Carberry recalled, England's new chairman of selectors James Whittaker described the issue as "water under the bridge" and Carberry holds no regrets over the frank comments. "I'm a man's man," he said. "I stand by what I believe rightly or wrongly. Thankfully it wasn't taken personally by England because it wasn't meant as a personal dig at them. We're in a business where we all have to take criticism as players and as an establishment. So as James Whittaker rightly said, we've had a chat about it and they've put it as water under the bridge and so have I. They know where I'm coming from and I know where they're coming from and they've expressed to me that they still see me as part of their plans so hopefully we can all move forward. I guess I'm just good at speaking from the heart. I've been through a lot in this game and I've never been one to hide what I really say. If you want to move forward as a player and as a team sometimes you have to be honest, not only with yourself but with your team, and I'm sure the England team want to move forward from a difficult winter and I'm sure there would have been a lot of other things said as well, honestly, from other players. Players are allowed to express their opinion."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/con ... 44713.html

To me, Giles doesn't come out of this smelling of roses...I think England made the right decision going for Moores over Giles.

[hopeforthebest]

Am I right in thinking that Carbs has been selected for limited overs squads based on his form in CC thus far whereas when he was a Test player he was not deemed good enough?

I posted this in another thread.

Carberry is no surprise, he scored 100* in a T20 and 150* ( could of been a double hundred with more runs to chase ) in a 40 over game against Moores' Lancs last year.

"It wasn't looking great but I had a chat with Peter Moores and the new selectors and they've made it clear to me that I'm still very much a part of things, which is good to know," Carberry said. "I've not been cast aside. So I'm really looking forward to what lies ahead. Pete's been open and honest with me and where he sees me and has make it clear to me that I've not been put on the scrap heap and that I've still got a big future with England. I'd worked with him before at England A level so I'm used to him and I know the type of guy he is. He made it clear to me that I'm very much a part of things going forward." Carberry struck out at his omission from any one-day cricket post-Ashes, despite an outstanding 2013 in both 40- and 20-over cricket that earned him an initial England call-up. Of his non-selection Carberry told The Guardian, "I don't think it's a cricket reason" and said he received more constructive feedback from the Australian players than England management. Six weeks on from the interview and with Carberry recalled, England's new chairman of selectors James Whittaker described the issue as "water under the bridge" and Carberry holds no regrets over the frank comments. "I'm a man's man," he said. "I stand by what I believe rightly or wrongly. Thankfully it wasn't taken personally by England because it wasn't meant as a personal dig at them. We're in a business where we all have to take criticism as players and as an establishment. So as James Whittaker rightly said, we've had a chat about it and they've put it as water under the bridge and so have I. They know where I'm coming from and I know where they're coming from and they've expressed to me that they still see me as part of their plans so hopefully we can all move forward. I guess I'm just good at speaking from the heart. I've been through a lot in this game and I've never been one to hide what I really say. If you want to move forward as a player and as a team sometimes you have to be honest, not only with yourself but with your team, and I'm sure the England team want to move forward from a difficult winter and I'm sure there would have been a lot of other things said as well, honestly, from other players. Players are allowed to express their opinion."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/con ... 44713.html

To me, Giles doesn't come out of this smelling of roses...I think England made the right decision going for Moores over Giles.

It seems Giles who ended up with a big responsibility without authority has become the scapegoat for all the problems whilst those with authority are declared clean
Whittacker head selector is happy to see it as "water under the bridge" which very convenient as it avoids his role in the debacle being fully investigated. Cook who as captain also had an influence on selection once the squads were announced is now heralded as England's great hope and Andy Flower who probably had the greatest influence over all things cricket is given a nice sinecure.

[Arthur Crabtree]

It's a lot of moving on. But the whole talking about it and making a bit of a fresh start seems to apply to some but not all.

[Arthur Crabtree]

I noticed Selvey, who prides himself on ECB insider knowledge, said on CWOTV that Cook wouldn't be in the 50 over England side v India, and Hales would. So soon to a WC, that feels like a big change, and so possibly heralds a change to Cook as captain, rather than resting him. The inference of the second sentence is mine, not Mike Selvey's.

[Slipstream]

For the World Cup
Cook
Bell
Trott
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Bopara
Broad
Tredwell
Anderson
Gurney

Reserves Jordan Plunkett Ali Patel

Some people would be thinking of a batting order of
Hales Roy Carberry Vince Morgan Buttler Bopara

[Arthur Crabtree]

I think Hales should have a chance, and Cook's place is the one under pressure.

Big call to say Trott will be back, though he'd be in the best side if available.

Maybe Jordan is ahead of Broad right now.

I'd be looking at alternatives to Ravi (excellent in T20 though he is). Patel would be ahead of him in my team.

[SaintPowelly]

I'd be looking at alternatives to Ravi (excellent in T20 though he is). Patel would be ahead of him in my team.

You can have the best of both worlds, pick Ravi Patel.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Borthwick, Kerrigan and Raynor were the spinners for England A in SL. I've got a hunch Riley and R.Patel will play this year. Which would be a big turnaround.

[sussexpob]

Alex Hales has scored 2 hundreds and 2 x 90 in the last few games, if Cook is going to keep him out the ODI team for the rest of this year then I lose faith in good reason.

[SaintPowelly]

Alex Hales has scored 2 hundreds and 2 x 90 in the last few games, if Cook is going to keep him out the ODI team for the rest of this year then I lose faith in good reason.

Maybe they ran out of darts in the selection meeting ? or didn't have a photo of him.

[sussexpob]

Alex Hales has scored 2 hundreds and 2 x 90 in the last few games, if Cook is going to keep him out the ODI team for the rest of this year then I lose faith in good reason.

Maybe they ran out of darts in the selection meeting ? or didn't have a photo of him.

The only barrier people give to his selection in the ODI team is his county form.... when you average over 67 for the year, then that's no longer a viable argument