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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby sussexpob » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:36 am

You say the players have to accept a contract, if offered. It’s difficult to see how that particular rule of the IPL auction could be enforced in law, if it ever came to it. This is probably a factor too in the minds of the players.


So your argument is that you are right because players would willingly be sued just to find out how much they are worth? And that in reality they know they wont, so they are happy to breach the contract? Seems a pretty long winded way of finding how much you could earn.... I think the more natural conclusion is to assume these players are actually wanting to make that money and play.

The players dont "accept" the contract, they propose the contract terms as part of the auction process, with the bidder accepting those terms. The auction is merely a process to decide the "consideration" amount under the contract... obviously a term of the offer from the player is that the reserve price is met, which they set.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby D/L » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:28 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:...I can imagine there will be a lot of goodwill and sympathy towards Kevin around the grounds.

I don't think anyone would question your powers of imagination, AC.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby D/L » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:31 am

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Alviro Patterson wrote:Small matter of any player being granted a No Objection Certificate before playing any IPL match. If a County objects, then that is the end of the matter.

Of course, yes. Wouldn't it be amusing if Surrey did this with Pietersen?


So its not enough to take the man's international career, you would prefer that the ECB also refused to grant him clearance from the "future tours programme" and refuse him the certification required to seal an IPL contract and continue to earn a living in cricket? Not only that, but you would be amused? Sorry, that only highlights how spiteful and toxic your motivations are towards said individual.

BTW, he isnt obliged to do anything for England or Surrey in this period so the ECB, far from getting their own back, would end up footing the bill of his contract in the IPL and subsequent damages to his future career and reputation on the grounds of restraint of trade.

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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby sussexpob » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:45 am

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sussexpob wrote:
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Alviro Patterson wrote:Small matter of any player being granted a No Objection Certificate before playing any IPL match. If a County objects, then that is the end of the matter.

Of course, yes. Wouldn't it be amusing if Surrey did this with Pietersen?


So its not enough to take the man's international career, you would prefer that the ECB also refused to grant him clearance from the "future tours programme" and refuse him the certification required to seal an IPL contract and continue to earn a living in cricket? Not only that, but you would be amused? Sorry, that only highlights how spiteful and toxic your motivations are towards said individual.

BTW, he isnt obliged to do anything for England or Surrey in this period so the ECB, far from getting their own back, would end up footing the bill of his contract in the IPL and subsequent damages to his future career and reputation on the grounds of restraint of trade.

Chill out, sp. Don't take everything so seriously.


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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 20, 2014 3:39 pm

16th October is the date when the gagging order is lifted.

We'll found out then just went on between KP & the ECB.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby D/L » Tue May 20, 2014 4:46 pm

Aidan11 wrote:16th October is the date when the gagging order is lifted.

We'll found out then just went on between KP & the ECB.

Not necessarily - there may be agreements not to disclose certain happenings and there will be things held back for publication in future autobiographies when all the players' agents have hammered out a deal.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 20, 2014 4:52 pm

D/L wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:16th October is the date when the gagging order is lifted.

We'll found out then just went on between KP & the ECB.

Not necessarily - there may be agreements not to disclose certain happenings and there will be things held back for publication in future autobiographies when all the players' agents have hammered out a deal.


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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby D/L » Tue May 20, 2014 5:57 pm

Just Pietersen's version and paying through the nose to hear it then? What a surprise.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby SaintPowelly » Tue May 20, 2014 7:24 pm

and he doesn't average close to "over 50" in test cricket, he averages 47.28 which is closer to 45.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Aidan11 » Tue May 20, 2014 7:26 pm

He doesn't have THE highest test score either.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby SaintPowelly » Tue May 20, 2014 7:28 pm

Good spot...wonder what kind of morons would attend.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Albondiga » Fri May 23, 2014 2:08 pm

I can't see why anybody is still interested.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Aidan11 » Fri May 23, 2014 2:11 pm

Albondiga wrote:I can't see why anybody is still interested.


The media certainly will be. Keen to stick it to the ECB especially as they have just had a moan about the recent Carberry interview.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby D/L » Sat May 24, 2014 1:10 pm

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Albondiga wrote:I can't see why anybody is still interested.

The media certainly will be. Keen to stick it to the ECB especially as they have just had a moan about the recent Carberry interview.

They moaned about the "Guardian", with good cause seemingly, and referred the newspaper to the Press Complaints Commission. We seem to be getting disinterest from the rest of the media (or should that be "uninterest"?).
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Aidan11 » Sat May 24, 2014 1:20 pm

D/L wrote:
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Albondiga wrote:I can't see why anybody is still interested.

The media certainly will be. Keen to stick it to the ECB especially as they have just had a moan about the recent Carberry interview.

They moaned about the "Guardian", with good cause seemingly, and referred the newspaper to the Press Complaints Commission. The rest of the media seem quite disinterested (or should that be "uninterested"?).


Nevertheless, the media will let the KP/ECB saga roll on and milk it for all its worth.

Cricinfo have published a response by KP over the Downton interview suggesting Mr D was perhaps a little economic with the truth.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/con ... 47201.html
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