England end KP's international career.

[Durhamfootman]

Frankly I'm staggered that Jade Derncr@p has put his name forward.

I'm guessing that he will be one of several of those players to find that no franchise is interested.

[Making_Splinters]

The ECBs "stance" has been completely piontless. Most English International cricketers have tried to get into the IPL despite the ECBs stance. Even this year, Bell is trying to get a contract.

The whole bluster from the ECB has been hollow from the start.

England players in IPL auction: Ian Bell (Warks), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Jade Dernbach (Surrey), Alex Hales (Notts), Craig Kieswetter (Somerset), Azhar Mahmood, Dimitri Mascarenhas, Eoin Morgan (Middx), Samit Patel (Notts), Kevin Pietersen (Surrey), Luke Wright (Sussex)

Only one serious test contender there and Bell has the same agent as Pietersen. Perhaps he didn't have the nous not to go along with it.

There has been no bluster at all. On this, the ECB seem to be serious.

Over the years England's test players have tried to get into the IPL even Bresnan back in 2010. What has saved the ECB is quite simple, the IPL doesn't really care for English players, because they are not good enough at the format, are not marketable and will miss a large chunk of the season.

[Alviro Patterson]

The ECBs "stance" has been completely piontless. Most English International cricketers have tried to get into the IPL despite the ECBs stance. Even this year, Bell is trying to get a contract.

The whole bluster from the ECB has been hollow from the start.

England players in IPL auction: Ian Bell (Warks), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Jade Dernbach (Surrey), Alex Hales (Notts), Craig Kieswetter (Somerset), Azhar Mahmood, Dimitri Mascarenhas, Eoin Morgan (Middx), Samit Patel (Notts), Kevin Pietersen (Surrey), Luke Wright (Sussex)

Only one serious test contender there and Bell has the same agent as Pietersen. Perhaps he didn't have the nous not to go along with it.

There has been no bluster at all. On this, the ECB seem to be serious.

Over the years England's test players have tried to get into the IPL even Bresnan back in 2010. What has saved the ECB is quite simple, the IPL doesn't really care for English players, because they are not good enough at the format, are not marketable and will miss a large chunk of the season.

or maybe the English players don't really care for IPL because test cricket is the pinnancle of the game and winning the County Championship is of a higher achievement.

[Making_Splinters]

The ECBs "stance" has been completely piontless. Most English International cricketers have tried to get into the IPL despite the ECBs stance. Even this year, Bell is trying to get a contract.

The whole bluster from the ECB has been hollow from the start.

England players in IPL auction: Ian Bell (Warks), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Jade Dernbach (Surrey), Alex Hales (Notts), Craig Kieswetter (Somerset), Azhar Mahmood, Dimitri Mascarenhas, Eoin Morgan (Middx), Samit Patel (Notts), Kevin Pietersen (Surrey), Luke Wright (Sussex)

Only one serious test contender there and Bell has the same agent as Pietersen. Perhaps he didn't have the nous not to go along with it.

There has been no bluster at all. On this, the ECB seem to be serious.

Over the years England's test players have tried to get into the IPL even Bresnan back in 2010. What has saved the ECB is quite simple, the IPL doesn't really care for English players, because they are not good enough at the format, are not marketable and will miss a large chunk of the season.

or maybe the English players don't really care for IPL because test cricket is the pinnancle of the game and winning the County Championship is of a higher achievement.

Which explains why they continue to apply for the Auction year after year.

[sussexpob]

or maybe the English players don't really care for IPL because test cricket is the pinnancle of the game and winning the County Championship is of a higher achievement.

Playing in Delhi in front of 1,000's of passionate fans, or playing on a damp April in front of 10 asleep OAP's who only came to get away from their wife? I would be pretty sure that no English player who had a guaranteed contract in the IPL would pick county cricket over IPL. The only people are those who are in, or have chance of a test spot, and those deluded enough, like Morgan, to believe they do.

Truth is the CC is rubbish now.

[Alviro Patterson]

or maybe the English players don't really care for IPL because test cricket is the pinnancle of the game and winning the County Championship is of a higher achievement.

Playing in Delhi in front of 1,000's of passionate fans, or playing on a damp April in front of 10 asleep OAP's who only came to get away from their wife? I would be pretty sure that no English player who had a guaranteed contract in the IPL would pick county cricket over IPL. The only people are those who are in, or have chance of a test spot, and those deluded enough, like Morgan, to believe they do.

Truth is the CC is rubbish now.

If that was the case then Jos Buttler would be content at Somerset as deputy wicketkeeper to Craig Keiswetter and ask his bosses if he could play some IPL cricket to pass the time, not move to Lancashire in order to improve his England chances.

Steven Davies could go down the IPL path if he wanted to, but he hasn't given up hope of an England return. Ryan Sidebottom's death over specialism would be of great interest with the IPL and who would blame him if he fancied earning some big money before retiring.

[sussexpob]

Which explains why they continue to apply for the Auction year after year.

Well just to give more information on that......

Alistair Cook has tried more than once and was even listed in 2012 as the highest uncapped player, but has so far failed to attract one IPL bid.
Jonathan Trott has entered 3-4 times, never attracted a bid.
Ian Bell has tried 3-4 times, and was like Cook, turned down every time even though in 2012 he was ranked as joint second in terms of potential value in the auction.
Matt Prior has tried 3 times.... no bids.
Samit Patel has entered on numerous occasions.
Carberry said last summer on scoring his 1st 100 that he hoped people in India noticed because he was desperate for a chance in IPL
KP has obviously played before.
Graham Swann was the highest price tagged spinner in 2011 but failed to attract anyone for 400k..... Chawla went for nearly three times that much.
James Anderson tried about 3 times and never attracted a bid.
Stuart Broad has played many times in the IPL.
Tim Bresnan tried 2-3 times by memory, never attracted a bid.
Chris Tremlett has entered twice..no bids
Monty Panesar entered in 2011 or 2012... no bids.

Thats basically an England team that have played in the same test match in the last 1-2 years, so to say no one wants to play is pretty ridiculous....

And Just for you Yorks boys.....

Rashid, Sidebottom, Gale, Lyth, McGrath, Shehzad,Plunkett, Bresnan and Jacques Rudolph have all deemed playing in the IPL and missing the start of the county season more important than playing County Cricket, as they all put themselves forward at various times to no success while contracted to Yorkshire.

Maybe if Stokes, Bairstow and Root had more than 7 x 50's between them in nearly 150 T20 matches they may have gone for it too.... (Stokes only has 13 wickets in 41 matches/ Root has taken only 7, so not much hope being classed as an allrounder)......

[Arthur Crabtree]

That really is such a good post!

[sussexpob]

If that was the case then Jos Buttler would be content at Somerset as deputy wicketkeeper to Craig Keiswetter and ask his bosses if he could play some IPL cricket to pass the time, not move to Lancashire in order to improve his England chances.

Steven Davies could go down the IPL path if he wanted to, but he hasn't given up hope of an England return. Ryan Sidebottom's death over specialism would be of great interest with the IPL and who would blame him if he fancied earning some big money before retiring.

Davis entered the IPL auction in 2010 and wasnt signed, Sidebottom entered in 2010 and 2011.... wasnt signed... both were lowest tier and could be signed on a league minimum, but generated no interest.

Jos Buttler was actually told in 2011 if he went to the Champions Trophy with Somerset, Flower would not consider him for the national team (and Keiswetter)... I no doubt believe that he has been told he has a chance at a test place, but one that disappears with IPL. He is young

[Arthur Crabtree]

Sidebottom might have been a good signing...

[sussexpob]

It must hurt the ego of everyone else in the team to see KP getting 650,000$ for a months work while they, having also put themselves on the block, were ignored. It must poor salt in the wounds even further when MS Dhoni reasons that this is because KP is such a special player it is worth having him for a few matches and paying top dollar, while the other England cricketers seems more than a little uninspiring for both the teams and the fans.

I think in 2011 Dhoni actually proposed that the ECB set a few T20 matches in India before the auction so that Indian fans could learn to love the English players, so in turn they generated interest, but that never happened.

Kind of a running thread..... lack of trust or too much jealousy

[Making_Splinters]

Which explains why they continue to apply for the Auction year after year.

Well just to give more information on that......

Alistair Cook has tried more than once and was even listed in 2012 as the highest uncapped player, but has so far failed to attract one IPL bid.
Jonathan Trott has entered 3-4 times, never attracted a bid.
Ian Bell has tried 3-4 times, and was like Cook, turned down every time even though in 2012 he was ranked as joint second in terms of potential value in the auction.
Matt Prior has tried 3 times.... no bids.
Samit Patel has entered on numerous occasions.
Carberry said last summer on scoring his 1st 100 that he hoped people in India noticed because he was desperate for a chance in IPL
KP has obviously played before.
Graham Swann was the highest price tagged spinner in 2011 but failed to attract anyone for 400k..... Chawla went for nearly three times that much.
James Anderson tried about 3 times and never attracted a bid.
Stuart Broad has played many times in the IPL.
Tim Bresnan tried 2-3 times by memory, never attracted a bid.
Chris Tremlett has entered twice..no bids
Monty Panesar entered in 2011 or 2012... no bids.

Thats basically an England team that have played in the same test match in the last 1-2 years, so to say no one wants to play is pretty ridiculous....

And Just for you Yorks boys.....

Rashid, Sidebottom, Gale, Lyth, McGrath, Shehzad,Plunkett, Bresnan and Jacques Rudolph have all deemed playing in the IPL and missing the start of the county season more important than playing County Cricket, as they all put themselves forward at various times to no success while contracted to Yorkshire.

Maybe if Stokes, Bairstow and Root had more than 7 x 50's between them in nearly 150 T20 matches they may have gone for it too.... (Stokes only has 13 wickets in 41 matches/ Root has taken only 7, so not much hope being classed as an allrounder)......

Broad has never played, injured both times he has had a contract.

[meninblue]

Which explains why they continue to apply for the Auction year after year.

Well just to give more information on that......

Alistair Cook has tried more than once and was even listed in 2012 as the highest uncapped player, but has so far failed to attract one IPL bid.
Jonathan Trott has entered 3-4 times, never attracted a bid.
Ian Bell has tried 3-4 times, and was like Cook, turned down every time even though in 2012 he was ranked as joint second in terms of potential value in the auction.
Matt Prior has tried 3 times.... no bids.
Samit Patel has entered on numerous occasions.
Carberry said last summer on scoring his 1st 100 that he hoped people in India noticed because he was desperate for a chance in IPL
KP has obviously played before.
Graham Swann was the highest price tagged spinner in 2011 but failed to attract anyone for 400k..... Chawla went for nearly three times that much.
James Anderson tried about 3 times and never attracted a bid.
Stuart Broad has played many times in the IPL.
Tim Bresnan tried 2-3 times by memory, never attracted a bid.
Chris Tremlett has entered twice..no bids
Monty Panesar entered in 2011 or 2012... no bids.

Thats basically an England team that have played in the same test match in the last 1-2 years, so to say no one wants to play is pretty ridiculous....

And Just for you Yorks boys.....

Rashid, Sidebottom, Gale, Lyth, McGrath, Shehzad,Plunkett, Bresnan and Jacques Rudolph have all deemed playing in the IPL and missing the start of the county season more important than playing County Cricket, as they all put themselves forward at various times to no success while contracted to Yorkshire.

Maybe if Stokes, Bairstow and Root had more than 7 x 50's between them in nearly 150 T20 matches they may have gone for it too.... (Stokes only has 13 wickets in 41 matches/ Root has taken only 7, so not much hope being classed as an allrounder)......

Broad has never played, injured both times he has had a contract.

Broad never played IPL. After having put forward his name for one IPL (2009 )he opted out of auction saying tests following the IPL were more important to him and he wanted to remain fit for the tour of SouthAfrica. In other IPL (2012 ) where he was selected by Kings 11 Punjab, he could not play due to calf injury.So he had to withdraw from the contract with Kings 11 Punjab.

Ravi too was selected by Kings 11 Punjab but i don't remember how many games he has played.

Morgan was not given even a single match by KKR out of the 17 matches they played in 2012.In 2013 he got to play 14 matches though and did average.To displace 4 foreign players like Kallis,BigMac,Narine and Tendo/Lee has been a challenge for him.This year KKR did not retain Morgan and let him go in general auction pool.

As soon as Azhar got British citizenship, he became a hot property for IPL in 2012.Although late visa process meant he could play only few matches then.Last year (2013) he played excellently for Kings 11 Punjab.

Dimi iirc took a five fer for his franchisee (Kings 11 Punjab).But did not have much impact in other matches .

The current England players in IPL auctions and their base price is as follows:

Kevin Pietersen 20,000,000
Craig Kieswetter 15,000,000
Azhar Mahmood 10,000,000
Ian Bell 10,000,000
Alex Hales 20,000,000
Ravi Bopara 10,000,000
Luke Wright 15,000,000
Dimitri Mascarenhas 5,000,000
Samit Patel 20,000,000
Rikki Clarke 15,000,000
Jade Dernbach 5,000,000
Simon Jones 3,000,000
Mohd.Azharullah 2,000,000
Steven Crook 3,000,000

[sussexpob]

Broad has never played, injured both times he has had a contract.

The point is he was signed, and more than once.

[meninblue]

Broad has never played, injured both times he has had a contract.

The point is he was signed, and more than once.

Yes, he was indeed signed with K11P but never played as i mentioned in previous post.