D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
braveneutral wrote:I would disagree, in the past counties have posted lower totals than 18. We haven't stripped them of their right to play the game.
England's_No7 wrote:braveneutral wrote:I would disagree, in the past counties have posted lower totals than 18. We haven't stripped them of their right to play the game.
Yes, but not recently! Also, i said they should still be allowed to play against counties but they shouldn't be considered as first class.
They are never competitive! Hildreth and Compton put on 450! Look how many times, Universities have been bowled out for under 150 this season. It's like what would happen if USA played Test cricket.
D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
England's_No7 wrote:When was the last time a University side won a match?
Nearly every time, they get thrashed.
18 is the lowest first class score since 1959 and is the lowest score in English cricket for about 90 years, when there were uncovered pitches.
D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
England's_No7 wrote:Give me 3 good reasons why Universities should keep their first class status?
D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
braveneutral wrote:England's_No7 wrote:When was the last time a University side won a match?
Nearly every time, they get thrashed.
18 is the lowest first class score since 1959 and is the lowest score in English cricket for about 90 years, when there were uncovered pitches.
So, what does that matter? You are discussing a sport which is full of statistical abnormalities. Hyderabad scored 21 in the 2010/11 season. Did they lose their status?
Whether they win matches is irrelevant, but I feel that they still offer the counties exactly what they need, a bit of practice and a chance to see the ball well for the batsmen. They are clearly deemed of some use otherwise they wouldn't be played. They have been first-class games for nearly forever, why change that after a few bad results.
braveneutral wrote:England's_No7 wrote:Give me 3 good reasons why Universities should keep their first class status?
1. Tradition.
2. Precednt of low-scoring teams not losing their status.
3. Practice value/ tradition of international players coming through the system.
D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
England's_No7 wrote:My idea would be to combine those 6 University teams into one team.
Combined MCCU's would have the best players from those 6 MCCU's so that they have a chance of producing a competitive match. At the moment, most of the team are just there to make up the numbers, my idea would ensure that the game is played at the highest quality possible as all the players will be of a good enough standard. If that doesn't work then go back to what they used to do 10 years ago (FC - Oxford/Cambridge, Non FC - Leeds, Cardiff, Durham, Loughborough).
D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
braveneutral wrote:England's_No7 wrote:My idea would be to combine those 6 University teams into one team.
Combined MCCU's would have the best players from those 6 MCCU's so that they have a chance of producing a competitive match. At the moment, most of the team are just there to make up the numbers, my idea would ensure that the game is played at the highest quality possible as all the players will be of a good enough standard. If that doesn't work then go back to what they used to do 10 years ago (FC - Oxford/Cambridge, Non FC - Leeds, Cardiff, Durham, Loughborough).
I don't think that you can limit those two to FC and the others to not being that way. There is an MCC Universities team already isn't there?
D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
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