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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby amitb » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:37 pm

The punishment is spot on.

Never expected ICC to give hefty bans for spot fixing.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:39 pm

sportbloggeradi wrote:Such cricketers who are a disgrace to cricket should be banned forever.


agree with that, shouldnt matter what extent they took their cheating too.

Cheating = life ban
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby amitb » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:48 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
Cheating = life ban


Thats almost like saying

Any Crime = Life sentence

Not going to happen
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby betterpolo » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:01 pm

Not enough of a difference in punishment between Butt and Amir for me.

Would like to see some actions to address the bigger issue, namely the influence of bookies within the game.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby mikesiva » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:13 pm

laughingdevil wrote:What a farce

With the "suspended" parts of the sentance if all of them are "good boys" they could all be back in 5 years.

Basically the minimum sentance for all

Pathetic decision.

I hope the ICC appeal

Five years is a long time for a professional cricketer, especially a pace bowler....

It's effectively ended the careers of Butt and Asif. When the bans end, they'll be too old to make a comeback.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Aidan11 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:21 pm

i suspect there will be an appeal.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Edward Mills Grace » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:29 pm

Some nice righteous indignation, but the problem is, if you give "life" bans (a phrase brought completely into disrepute by the Pakistan Cricket Board last year in any case) for spot fixing, what do you do when somebody actually does fix matches? What you're actually demanding if you say "any cheating = life ban" is that there is execution and there is "getting away with it" and no points in between. There is not a civilised justice system in the world that would accept that notion.

Instead we have bans for the two senior players that effectively ends their international careers in disgrace even if they undertake the anti-corruption programme, and for the teenager who has been corrupted in their presence, a lengthy ban with the possiblitiy of rehabilitation at the end. It's a damn sight more than a slap on the wrist, but at the same time, an outcome that avoids posturing, rhetoric and, again, righteous indignation. A punishment,in short, that fits the crime.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:33 pm

Edward Mills Grace wrote:Some nice righteous indignation, but the problem is, if you give "life" bans (a phrase brought completely into disrepute by the Pakistan Cricket Board last year in any case) for spot fixing, what do you do when somebody actually does fix matches? What you're actually demanding if you say "any cheating = life ban" is that there is execution and there is "getting away with it" and no points in between. There is not a civilised justice system in the world that would accept that notion.

Instead we have bans for the two senior players that effectively ends their international careers in disgrace even if they undertake the anti-corruption programme, and for the teenager who has been corrupted in their presence, a lengthy ban with the possiblitiy of rehabilitation at the end. It's a damn sight more than a slap on the wrist, but at the same time, an outcome that avoids posturing, rhetoric and, again, righteous indignation. A punishment,in short, that fits the crime.



Isn't it this kind of leniency that cricketers are taking advantage of? Give a shot at match fixing, earn fortune. If not caught, great earn more and more. Even if caught, you can come back and do it again. :dunno
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby D/L » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:34 pm

Edward Mills Grace wrote:...and for the teenager who has been corrupted in their presence, a lengthy ban with the possiblitiy of rehabilitation at the end...

He's the oldest looking teenager I've ever seen. Perhaps he won't have so much of a career left when the ban ends. The sanctions seem about right to me.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby mikesiva » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:36 pm

Personally, I agree with Edward....

The bans effectively end the careers of Asif and Butt, who should've known better, while Amir has a chance to prove that he's learnt from his bad mistake, committed when he was young. I don't really have a problem with that....

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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:46 pm

Cheating is cheating and should be a life ban

if I steal £5..I should recieve the same punishment as if I stole £50,£500 or £5,000, crime is crime regardless of magnitude
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby amitb » Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:05 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:Cheating is cheating and should be a life ban

if I steal £5..I should recieve the same punishment as if I stole £50,£500 or £5,000, crime is crime regardless of magnitude


Punishment is always meted out depending upon magnitude.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby englandmad666 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:19 pm

Ha pathetic sentences, ban for life or dont bother. Just weak by the ICC, no doubt the Pcb will be happy 5 years time amir will be straight back into the team and he would still be onlly 23, a joke im furious. I hope our courts send em down, that would feel like justice was done.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:23 pm

Does anyone actually believe Amir is 18 at the moment, really?
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:28 pm

BCCI took bold steps in dealing with Azhar,Jadeja,Mongia and Chopra. They never came back in to the squad.
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