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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Ahmose » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:23 am

D/L wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:The best solution would be to allow Pakistan players to play in the IPL - I understand it would cause problems in the short term, but it would be alot easier...

Isn't there enough spot bet fixing in the IPL already?

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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby mikesiva » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:34 am

Wahab Riaz is the next player to be questioned....

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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:44 am

Amir,Asif and Butt will return home to Pakistan today
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Ahmose » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:13 pm

The ICC should come down heavily of these money-grabbing numbskulls just as they did to Hansie Cronje - a life time ban!
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:30 pm

Ahmose wrote:The ICC should come down heavily of these money-grabbing numbskulls just as they did to Hansie Cronje - a life time ban!


they need to be 'proven' guilty first.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Albondiga » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:40 pm

sussexpob wrote:
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SaintPowelly wrote:
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SaintPowelly wrote:If you were in a position that you could blackmail a player with a genuine threat of harming their families, then you would have no need to pay them.

Yasir Hameed said that they could make upto 1.8mil..if I was the 'blackmailer' I wouldn't pay them at all - the threat would be enough.

Thats why I think it is all down to greed, its common knowledge that the Pakistanis don't get paid as much as the English or the Aussies.




You are probably right but blackmail is playing on people's PERCEPTION OF WRONGDOING and making capital of it. That is why it is successful. IE A husband has extra marital sex with one other woman - she knows this as as it was one time only doesn't care as she did the same several years ago - he doesn't know his wife knows and so is perfect for blackmail.

Possible but more likely to be greed rather than fear.


saying " give me the chance to give you 1.8mil or I'll shoot your mother" just seems bizarre especially if you are able to get the 'deed' done without handing over money





A good blackmailer makes the blackmailed seem to be the villain of the piece not the blackmailer.

You say that everyone knows that Pakistan players don't get paid as much as say Austrailians or the English. Is this relevant ??? I would suggest that a fiver goes considerably further in Pakistan than it does in England.



Yes of course it matters. Its not about relative status of what your money buys, its about the fact that you are not recieving the same financial rewards for doing the same thing, in the case of amir, to a better level than most people in higher paid teams.




Relative status is valid but the world is full of millions of examples of people who do a better job than others but get paid less. At least his money goes further I'm sure that Sir Richard Hadlee never got paid as much as some ordinary hacks that have played for England.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Aidan11 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:08 pm

I wonder if the NOTW have anything more to add in tomorrow's paper.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:09 pm

Aidan11 wrote:I wonder if the NOTW have anything more to add in tomorrow's paper.


I would be shocked if they didn't.. they probably have enough for another 6 weeks or so. ( or they should do if they have any sense )
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:45 pm

They've gone with Ricky Hatton does Cocaine I think.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:17 am

There is a little bit tenuously linked to the spot fixing saga.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/96 ... icate.html
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:27 am

Since the fixing incident i haven't cared to watch any cricket match. I just cannot believe this has happened yet again after the confession of Hansie Cronje. What are the cricketers playing for and what was i watching all the time :d'oh:

Now on basis of records i can only trust Sachin, Dravid, Ponting and Kallis for not being involved in such murky things. Who knows what other players with bad statistics are up to ?
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby from_the_stands » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:12 pm

sportbloggeradi wrote:Since the fixing incident i haven't cared to watch any cricket match. I just cannot believe this has happened yet again after the confession of Hansie Cronje. What are the cricketers playing for and what was i watching all the time :d'oh:

Now on basis of records i can only trust Sachin, Dravid, Ponting and Kallis for not being involved in such murky things. Who knows what other players with bad statistics are up to ?


How do you know that these players haven't been on the take at some point? You couldn't possibly know that for sure unless you where actually one of them, or the bookie they did business with. Ponting's record in India is rubbish, yet he averages over 50 everywhere else. And in a game where every Indian bookmaker didn't want India to win, Sachin makes 4! Whilst I'm not questioning the integrity of 2 of the finest cricketers of the modern era here, what I am suggesting is that everyone has a price tag for their integrity, and some of us value it more so than others. Mohammad Azharuddin (and Hansie Cronje) obviously had a price for his, and is now a standing member in the lower house of the Indian parliament!

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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Borges » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:22 pm

> In sport, especially where money is involved, ANYTHING is possible.

Breaking news:
Twenty nine cricketers, including two Australians are suspected to be involved in spot-fixing at last year's Indian Premier League in South Africa, a leading London newspaper claimed today.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/29-cricke ... 99172.aspx

Too early to comment on this I suppose; the ICC has neither confirmed nor denied this yet.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby mikesiva » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:26 pm

Borges wrote:> In sport, especially where money is involved, ANYTHING is possible.

Breaking news:
Twenty nine cricketers, including two Australians are suspected to be involved in spot-fixing at last year's Indian Premier League in South Africa, a leading London newspaper claimed today.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/29-cricke ... 99172.aspx

Too early to comment on this I suppose; the ICC has neither confirmed nor denied this yet.

And, lest we forget, no Pakistanis were playing in that IPL....

No Englishman either, for that matter.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:34 pm

If Lumb or Mascarenhas are involved.. I will be devastated..I'd probably never watch cricket again
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