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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby meninblue » Thu Dec 25, 2025 6:39 am

Drinking during test tour. :panic One needs to be mentally and physcially fit to play for whole day under the sun. From what I understand, one cannot perform with a dehydrated body the very next day, lack of sleep due to wasting sleeping time drinking till late night which reduces muscle recovery time for those into sport and fitness, headache and / or hangover symptoms. Is the lifestyle of elite sportsmen in middle of tours or days before upcoming tours such far away from following basic science and knowledge about the body and its maintenance in context of sport and fitness. What are the coaches doing, who is there to ensure discipline within team, set simple Do's and Dont's. Winning a test series against the side which were runner's up in WTC (Australia) at their home is tough and even a draw and loss after a fightback is understandable. The first two tests lost by 8 wickets each and the third by 82 runs. There is not enough contest and the win margins show it. But not having basic common sense and simple Do's and Dont's is very ridiculous. These players are young and if you allow them to drink in middle of tour they will go out drinking at the very next moment the sun sets. There is so much off-time in entire life to drink, but they choose middle of a test tour and worse even day before the test :hmmm However, ECB head, Selection committee, Head Coach etc should ensure what is acceptable and what is not as these things are their part of the job. They need to be held accountable.

Players who repeatedly do something which leads to massive degradation in their performances should not be selected. Have some Do's and Don'ts which management has apparently not done. One dimensional Bazball is the next that should be looked at.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Dec 25, 2025 9:45 am

This news cycle story doesn't mean they are drinking all through the series. It's possible this mid tour holiday was intended to be a break in the dedicated toil of the tour. Cricket is unique (?) in being a team sport in which you are constantly away from home. They have to have some personal life on tour.

I'd keep Stokes as captain. I like that he attacks in the field. And he created an optimism around the team. He's also one of those England captains who triggered an overnight improvement in results (even if he didn't make them world beaters). Like Gooch, Brearley and Vaughan. But like being PM, it ages you.

I suppose the cult of bazball is partly on his hands.

Don't know enough to comment on the others, but something has gone very badly and obviously wrong with selection, team development and tour planning, so there might be a change at that level.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby sussexpob » Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:46 pm

alfie wrote: I really don't think this failed tour is primarily a result of just concentrating on pace bowling !


In the last three years, England are joint last out of all WTC teams in bowling average per wicket. Their bowling is about historical par, in an era of plummeting scores across the board mostly.

In this series, Australia are averaging 6-7 runs per wicket more than their recent norm.

India in the last cycle averaged 28 across all teams.... in matches vs England, they averaged 39 at home and 42 away, which are huge era anomalies. Even when isolated to recent series against sides in the top of the WTC table, SA took them for 16 (away) and 18(at home) per wicket, NZ 21 per wicket, Australis 24.... these numbers in context are tragic, historically bad. England against the same line up gave up the most runs ever batted in a series to a team, the 4th highest match total ever scored by a team, and huge batting averages across the board.

Zimbabwe's best score vs a WTC side in same period (15 tests played).... the Lords test vs England.

Pakistan's average batting in the period is 28 also.... 34 vs England.

Everyone seems to bat considerably better against us than anyone else ?
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:04 am

England win the toss as usual and bowl.

Aussies go in without a spinner.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:12 am

Travis Head/Jake Weatherald/Marnus Labuschagne/Steve Smith/Usman Khawaja/Alex Carey/Cameron Green/Michael Neser/Mitchell Starc/Jhye Richardson/Scott Boland

So Green has dropped a few places.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby GarlicJam » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:38 am

First over and a half, and Head looks completely lost. Could be out every ball.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:47 am

England wouldnt have made 150 if wed have had to bat first

Can the england bowlers pitch enough balls up to get australia 4 or 5 down at lunch?

The first few overs suggests probably not
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:49 am

The usual rubbish from carse

12 balls bowled. 8 down the leg side when its swinging on a green pitch.

Atkinson bowling too short

Wickets to be had here if they get it right
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:58 am

Atkinson gets head

Absolute load of dross from carse again though.

Get tongue on please
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:58 am

Carse seems tpo be releasing the pressure.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:59 am

Sure to be five down at lunch now!
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Dec 26, 2025 1:02 am

Wicket was a drag-on. So Acko still not targeting the stumps.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby from_the_stands » Fri Dec 26, 2025 1:11 am

TBH, I'm a nervous wreak every time I watch Australia bat. And here, Weathered is still finding his feet whilst Lambshanks has never overwhelmed me with confidence, even though he's averaging 40 this series. And next in, we have the fidget king.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Dec 26, 2025 1:14 am

Aussies been making noises of job-done too. Though that could be mind games.
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Re: Ashes 2025-26.

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Dec 26, 2025 1:14 am

from_the_stands wrote:TBH, I'm a nervous wreak every time I watch Australia bat. And here, Weathered is still finding his feet whilst Lambshanks has never overwhelmed me with confidence, even though he's averaging 40 this series. And next in, we have the fidget king.

Is it not kind of irrelevant unless you get skittled for 120?

Boland is going to eat the england line up for breakfast on a green wicket
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