Reflecting on the incident, Yeats said: "I got in first to the referee and said 'I'll have tails'. Lucky for me the referee said, 'OK. Liverpool tails, Cologne heads.'
"Up it went and it stuck in a divot. I said to the referee, 'Ref, you're going to have to retoss the coin'. And he went 'You're right, Mr Yeats.'
"I thought the German captain was going to hit him. He was going berserk because it was falling over on the heads. He picked it up, up it went again, and came down tails.
"We were coming off and who is standing there but Bill Shankly. I was first off the pitch and he went 'Well done, big man. I am proud of you. What did you pick?'
"I said 'I picked tails, boss'. I was waiting for the adulation but he just went 'I would have picked tails myself' and walked away."
sussexpob wrote:A competition is only as good as the level of integrity and fair play on display, so I think its fair to say this tournament has been rendered a joke. In the past when it rained for a week solid, you dont see Wimbledon's organizers removing rounds of the tournament to progress people of higher rank or who won by bigger margins in early rounds.... just so the tournament can finish on time. Nope, they move the final back and make sure all the matches are played, regardless of how many tickets you sell on a work day.
If you are telling me the ICC and Australia are incapable of finding a venue to host 3 hours of cricket in 3 days, then I dont believe you. Anything is better than kicking a team out of a tournament, so quite literally if that means sending them to the only available school field to have a match to decide it, do it. Its a game of cricket, if 22 old guys in rural Devon can arrange to play teams at late notice when others pull out, I struggle to understand how the world's authority and a powerhouse nation cant find a single venue to complete a game at short notice. And if they cant, move the final back.
Lets be honest here, this is about money. Cant have a premier final moved to accommodate a worthwhile competition because tickets have been sold. The ICC care more about refunding tickets than the integrity of the game.
Its only cricket that seems to have this issue. I couldnt imagine any other sport deciding the destiny of its showpiece tournament final on the basis of a game to decide being postponed. Could you imagine the Champions League semi-final being decided because a game had to be called off for a freak storm?
Nah. They'd play it on a school field somewhere at 8am in the morning if they had to.
GarlicJam wrote:you lot - and especially you, Sussex, I think - were fine when England drew their way to the world championship. "that's the roolz".
A bit of compassion for the Kiwis to be so unlucky, but thems the breaks, eh?
I'm just pleased that Aus got to play their game....
GarlicJam wrote:you lot - and especially you, Sussex, I think - were fine when England drew their way to the world championship. "that's the roolz".
Durhamfootman wrote:England should have beaten SA in the first match. They have the better team, the better players (Knight and Sciver have out performed Kapp and Van Niekerk, and Ecclestone is better than anything SA have) and management made sure they were thoroughly prepared and acclimatised by playing the tri series before the warm ups. They can have no excuses. They were just a bit dozy in the first match, which in such a short tournament they couldn't afford to be. Maybe they'll learn this lesson
GarlicJam wrote:you lot - and especially you, Sussex, I think - were fine when England drew their way to the world championship. "that's the roolz"
The method of victory would upset me as a kiwi, but someone has to win. This idea I've seen some places that it should be a tie....sorry, you can't have a tie in a world cup final.
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You can't also have results in previous games as a tie breaker. Such things can decide leagues, but cannot decide one off games; it has to be something inside that game that seperates....I grant it, wickets should be the method, in fact I'd have no super over unless runs and wickets are tied (is NZ win).....but they chose boundaries, those the rules.
I imagine some rules will change after today...namely runs off the bat from overthrows, and maybe tiebreaker ones too.
You have to feel for the Kiwis.....
Alviro Patterson wrote:When the final group stage game was completed 48 hours before Semi Finals (Tuesday) and the Final being played 72 hours afterwards (Sunday), yes it is difficult to find three days to ensure a Semi Final fixture is fulfilled
DIfference is, Wimbledon is played in one location and has something like 20 tournament standard courts. Any matches delayed to weather (particularly early tournament), can be rearranged and not adversely affect the overall itinerary.
Alviro Patterson wrote:Like it or not, it is about money because tournaments are not cheap to host and especially in a huge country like Australia. Say if the T20 Final got moved back to Monday and the ICC are forced to issue refunds approaching seven figures (emember 50k tickets already sold), chances are prize money would be slashed to recover the shortfall, *cue faux outrage that women are not getting equal prize money to men*
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