Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

[andy]

anyway....cricket, 4th test...here we go...

[Aidan11]

anyway....cricket, 4th test...here we go...

No let's talk about threads.

[andy]

as in clothes or cricket threads lol?

[Aidan11]

as in clothes or cricket threads lol?

Good point. I've just bought a new T shirt. Got it from Primark.

[andy]

not Primani?

[Arthur Crabtree]

By the way, another left armer, Tuffers has a 4fer there (admittedly for 142). Not saying there's anything about left armers, as Udal took a 4fer and Swann did well there. Embers took four wickets in three games. Which feels a bit like not scoring at an orgy.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=bowling

This is best innings bowling for any side since 2006.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=bowling

[braveneutral]

Oh I like this thread.

[Dr Cricket]

This is where the whole myth of Indian conditions really start to come to the fore. Mumbai will turn, I expect big, with bounce and a bit more pace in the wicket. Yet on these types of pitches, batting can be a lottery, and the worst of spinners made to look good. Hence why at Mumbai I think England have a chance if they bat well. I cant see either team making huge runs, the ball will do too much even for poor spinners in England's control.

What a cracking innings that was from KP, btw. Hit the Indian spinners around for fun.

TBH this is probably one of the grounds where you want to bat first and toss is actually important and that saying something from me.
pitches like Rajkot, Vizaq and Mohali batting last is possible and so losing a toss isn't that big of a deal but like you say in Mumbai and Chennai the red soil does mean the ball starts to turn early and with it also being quicker any crap spinner can be made to look deadly.

Wouldn't like to chase more than 150 in Mumbai or Chennai.

probably explain why India got a mix record in Mumbai.
Although if the curators produce a good batting deck expect a pitch like this.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/c ... 35999.html
WI got 590 in first innings and they actually nearly lost the game as well.
India 482
WI 134
India 242

Even one of the good decks was turning big on day 5.
Think Ravi Shastri is expecting a pitch like this for Mumbai and not a pitch turning from Day 1.

[meninblue]

Ajinkya's home ground. Hope he will find form here.

[Dr Cricket]

Do hope shanky wrong about rahane.
He really needs a score otherwise this could be a long year for him especially if shanky correct.

[andy]

I hope Rahane eventually comes good, even though he is one the opposition side, im a big fan of his, and hope he does eventually come good, he's a talented batsman

[hopeforthebest]

I see Bayliss is calling for positivity again, unfortunately his batsmen interpret that as go out and score quickly which in tests is not always what's required. He seems like someone who would treat a case of a dug overdose with a good sniff of cocaine. Maybe he wants these tests used as preparation for next years champions trophy.

[rich1uk]

i agree actually that we need to be positive

the problem isn't being positive its making good decisions on a ball by ball basis

executing a good plan badly doesn't make it a bad plan

[hopeforthebest]

i agree actually that we need to be positive

the problem isn't being positive its making good decisions on a ball by ball basis

executing a good plan badly doesn't make it a bad plan

As I clearly said his batsmen don't interpret his call in the way you describe and I don't think Bayliss does either. He wants the scoring rate to flow and has stated so. George Dobell in his article clearly is critical of his latest call to arms.

[rich1uk]

i agree actually that we need to be positive

the problem isn't being positive its making good decisions on a ball by ball basis

executing a good plan badly doesn't make it a bad plan

As I clearly said his batsmen don't interpret his call in the way you describe and I don't think Bayliss does either. He wants the scoring rate to flow and has stated so. George Dobell in his article clearly is critical of his latest call to arms.

he wants us to not get bogged down and just allow the bowlers and fielding captain to be able to dictate the pace of the game

batsmen have to find ways to put some pressure back on the bowlers and not just wait for a ball with their name on it