England Versus India - 1st Test (9 Nov - 13 Nov)

[Dr Cricket]

All those people who bet on india winning 5-0 will be delighted with the state of play

Think the bookies might be already cashing all the bets in to the bank.
no chance of india winning this test, if they do england would have to be awful with the ball and awful with the bat when the ball actually turns on day 4-5 and then india chasing it, which could be anything depending on how long england bat in the 2nd innings.

[Dr Cricket]

only issue with botham comments is the grass cover keeping the pitch together.
generally the saying in india is that if the pitch got grass the deck good for batting for 5-7 days.
England should know they played in green decks as warm up games in 2012.

actually quite surprising India got the ball to reverse really be interesting to see if England can get the ball to reverse.

[hopeforthebest]

Good end of day for India, maybe tomorrow early on batting will be a little less easy, starting after a night's sleep always appears difficult. Maybe there's just a little moisture around to aid the bowlers.

[Dr Cricket]

Ball does tend to spin more in the morning but then stop or less frequent turn in the afternoon and evening session.

[Dr Cricket]

Wow a bit early for Taylor, Stewart and Gower to discuss if they will enforce the follow on.
really you expect a daddy of all collapses if india don't get another 274 runs and even then you looking at india trailing around 300 if they will send india again, doubt india will be batting again if they trail around 200-250.
not sure england will want to risk chasing 150+ to win the game on day 5, by sending india again on day 3 or 4.

[Gingerfinch]

England will almost definitely bat again, if we are in a position to enforce the follow on.

[hopeforthebest]

This is a very slow pitch and it will require some very poor batting from India and some very good bowling to get 10 wickets for under 350 on this pitch. If England's quicks can get reverse swing then they'll have a chance.

[Dr Cricket]

This is a very slow pitch and it will require some very poor batting from India and some very good bowling to get 10 wickets for under 350 on this pitch. If England's quicks can get reverse swing then they'll have a chance.

agree just hope india gets 500 or 600 and then kills the debate of having these pitch ever again in asia.
although if that happens just hopefully england bat well and not make this pitch look like a good one if somehow this game gets a result.
Would be best for the game if india get 620 or so runs, england 250/4 or 5 and the game ends in a draw with everyone calling the pitch a disgrace.

no comparison which game I rather watch the india vs NZ, Aus, SA and england 2012 pitch than the crap served so far.
Didn't even wake up at 3.45 today even though I set the alarm, not sure the point of waking up early and only getting 4-5 hrs sleep in 2 days was worth it with the pitch being so dead, England scoring easy runs and the game not actually coming alive till day 4-5.

Will wake up early tomorrow only because india batting and they got a crucial day coming up, if the reverse was happening wouldn't actually wake up considering it is very likely England would bat well on this deck from the same situation, doubt any of the cricket so far made the english fans wake up unlike the ones in Dhaka and Chittagong did.
not much in it for the bowlers that make Test cricket so much better to watch, losing only 10 wicket in 2 days is very poor and you expect at the very least taking another 4 session to take another 10 wickets.
All the talk of reverse swing so far in this game, but not really sure how india got the ball moving on this test and in the NZ series, NZ couldn't get it moving once, although england look after it better and better exponents of it but still getting the ball to reverse on a lush outfield and a deck that isn't that scruffy or dry is baffling especially with the deck also having grass cover and really with the early start you also expect moisture from the ground to make the ball slightly wet and it only needs a bit of moisture to stop the reverse swing.

Thankfully it is a 5 match series so you can cope with these types of wickets, Nagpur in 2012 didn't really bother me since the other 3 were good wickets although they got away with it in Ahmedabad how england lost that was baffling, dead wicket, slow and England still scoring 400 in day 4/5.
Really sensing the same thing here that batting will not be that hard on day 4 and 5 especially with both batting quite deep.

[Dr Cricket]

Last point if they play the next 5 test on similar wicket like this then just kill me now, god knows how the older folks watched the 1980 india vs england series, would have never liked cricket watching that crap.
probably was a blessing in disguise bbc didn't show overseas cricket in those days, so a question for the older viewers did anyone actually watch any india series in the 1960/70/80s was it really bad like I am making it out to be.
I be honest very hard to find many videos, pieces or opinions on india games during those days, most of the time is like india didn't actually play any cricket at home, think only remember reading gavaskar say how dead the pitches were against pakistan since they were scared to lose against Pakistan.

probably hard to know since I don't think india games were actually televised until the late or mid 80s, so maybe that why india home games are largely forgotten during those times.

[meninblue]

Strong reply by our team.Fielding for five sessions and then come and score 65/0 is a good achievement. Hopefully we will bat for 5 sessions as well and draw this.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Looks like a great day for England. Not just the 500+, but control in the field too with just 2.7 rpo conceded. Just a wicket short of ideal. Even if India speed up (which I guess they will) it'll be approaching tea on day five before India go past England's score. Still a chance to lose from there, but better than could have been reasonably expected so far.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Apart from Joe Root, no England number 3-5 has made a hundred since the first Test against West Indies in Spring 2015. 26 Tests ago.

Mo wipes off that record.

Amended stats.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=batting

[Arthur Crabtree]

Those eight byes don't look good.

[hopeforthebest]

Those eight byes don't look good.

I only saw one of them that went for a boundary and a delivery from Moeen leapt out of the rough high over Bairstow's shoulder.

[Dr Cricket]

Looks like a great day for England. Not just the 500+, but control in the field too with just 2.7 rpo conceded. Just a wicket short of ideal. Even if India speed up (which I guess they will) it'll be approaching tea on day five before India go past England's score. Still a chance to lose from there, but better than could have been reasonably expected so far.

Arthur not sure you been realistic doubt india will bat for 2.7 for more than 150 overs.
if india bat all day tomorrow they should be around 360-400 tomorrow and doubt it will take another 4 session to go past england total.
Although a very good chance of england drawing or winning this game and should be noted right now india winning is 3rd in the list of the outcomes so two very goods for england.

highly doubt india will bat so slow it takes 2 and half days to go past england total, if they do bat well I expect at least 4 or 5 session remaining for England to set a total and then india to chase it, it would have to be seen if that is enough for a result.