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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:28 am

yuppie wrote:Amazing for Bournemouth.

Any plans to expand the stadium?

The only thing I've heard so far is filling in the corners to raise the capacity by another 4 to 5 thousand. The south stand is a temporary stand and could be developed into two tiers I guess. I don't think anyone at the club was seriously thinking that they would get promotion this season, but now they're up serious consideration will have to be given to upgrading the stadium because without substantiously raising the ground capacity they won't be able to compete on FFP for a start. I guess they will throw around the possibilities of a new stadium but that can't happen overnight and are they going to fill it? Then there's the strong chance we'll go straight back down again. I'm guessing they might go for a cautious approach and not rush into anything, and hope they can scrape fourth from bottom next season, then go from there.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby yuppie » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:01 am

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yuppie wrote:Amazing for Bournemouth.

Any plans to expand the stadium?

The only thing I've heard so far is filling in the corners to raise the capacity by another 4 to 5 thousand. The south stand is a temporary stand and could be developed into two tiers I guess. I don't think anyone at the club was seriously thinking that they would get promotion this season, but now they're up serious consideration will have to be given to upgrading the stadium because without substantiously raising the ground capacity they won't be able to compete on FFP for a start. I guess they will throw around the possibilities of a new stadium but that can't happen overnight and are they going to fill it? Then there's the strong chance we'll go straight back down again. I'm guessing they might go for a cautious approach and not rush into anything, and hope they can scrape fourth from bottom next season, then go from there.



Am i right in thinking capacity is about 10,000?

With 19 sold out home premier league home games coming next year i'm guessing even by increasing the capacity by 5,000 would increase match day revenue by a huge amount. Even if Bournemouth come straight back down they will have a good income stream for the next 4 years. Lets just hope Bournemouth manage the income sensibly over that time.

Exciting times and a massive windfall for the club. Enjoy the coming years Budget, going to be a roller coaster.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:18 am

It's around 12,000 when everyone is crammed in.

There are alot of issues which will have to talked over and resolved in the coming months, for starters the ground doesn't even belong to the club. Land has recently been acquired by the club near a local golf course, and they've also bought the athletics stadium about 200 yards away from the current stadium. Its partly to put themselves in a better bargaining position with the landlords of the Dean Court who will now put the price of buying back the ground up another few pesetas now promotion has been achieved. The club can then say stuff it we'll build a new ground somewhere else and then you will have an empty stadium which you can't redevelop because its designated sporting use only.

It's probably going to get quite messy, but I hope nothing is rushed. We shall see.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:01 am

Shame it was a couple of years too late for Steve Fletcher.

We still hold him in high regard here.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:06 am

Aidan11 wrote:Shame it was a couple of years too late for Steve Fletcher.

We still hold him in high regard here.

I didn't realise he began his career with you guys before he came to us.

He's still at the club, more in the background these days, does a bit of scouting in the lower leagues.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:12 am

budgetmeansbudget wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:Shame it was a couple of years too late for Steve Fletcher.

We still hold him in high regard here.

I didn't realise he began his career with you guys before he came to us.

He's still at the club, more in the background these days, does a bit of scouting in the lower leagues.



Yeah his parents still live here. He's often seen around town when he visits them.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:20 pm

I think I heard this morning Bournemouth are the 67th different club to enter the top tier of English fotball.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby sussexpob » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:23 pm

Wonders of what a Russian Billionaire owner can do for you. While I don't begrudge Bournemouth's success, I do find the narrative of "small club beating the big boys" rather amusing and untruthful. I did read this morning that they have the largest spending to net revenue ratio, which in essence means far from being the best managed "small club" in England, they are the club who are most living out of their means in football, and most reliant on their owners cash. Apparently they are also the biggest percentage loss maker and spender in football who hasn't be slapped with an FPP charge..... (Forest and Leeds spend more but have had FPP reductions, all other Championship teams with larger spending receive parachute payments that bring them inside)

I remember buying a "save Bournemouth badge" at Brighton and giving some cash to the cause a few years back. Other teams did the same for us, and I always made donations to other teams in solidarity to the help they gave us (Wrexham/Chester/Swansea were others by memory).

I just wonder how much of that £60 million bonus they get will be given to the true fans who made sure this club still existed with their own time ,effort and money? Far from Howe, it was those fans who are the greatest thing the club ever had..... I wonder if they still get tickets for matches, or how they will be exploited with price rises at the ground watching Premier League football? How many of those there last night were turning up ten years ago, and how many jump on the success?
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby Gingerfinch » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:31 pm

Aidan11 wrote:I think I heard this morning Bournemouth are the 67th different club to enter the top tier of English fotball.


Hartlepool and Wycombe, one day?
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:38 pm

Gingerfinch wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:I think I heard this morning Bournemouth are the 67th different club to enter the top tier of English fotball.


Hartlepool and Wycombe, one day?


We need rich owners before we get anywhere.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby Gingerfinch » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:43 pm

Aidan11 wrote:
Gingerfinch wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:I think I heard this morning Bournemouth are the 67th different club to enter the top tier of English fotball.


Hartlepool and Wycombe, one day?


We need rich owners before we get anywhere.


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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:45 pm

Adrian Durham was saying the very same things as you Sussex on Talk Sport pre game yesterday evening. While alot of what you and he was saying is true, it does still smack of sour grapes. At the end of the day they complied with the current rules of FFP and I hope they continue to do so.

The owner has put some money in, but he hasn't spent a fortune thus far. Who knows what will happen in the next year or so, we may get relegated, Howe might leave, the Owner may take all his money out, and we may lose half the players, whatever happens happens. As far as I'm concerned it was all about enjoying the rollercoaster this season, and living the dream for next season. I will probably feel this time next season I would have preferred to still be in the Championship, because the football is more real and the fans are more engaged but Bournemouth will always be a small club whatever the backing and whatever division they are in.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby sussexpob » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:58 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Adrian Durham was saying the very same things as you Sussex on Talk Sport pre game yesterday evening. While alot of what you and he was saying is true, it does still smack of sour grapes. At the end of the day they complied with the current rules of FFP and I hope they continue to do so


I don't like FPP at all, I would do away with it if I had my way. Its not Bournemouth spending the money therefore, or the fact they have a benefactor helping them, its simply the fact that the press talk of teams like Chelsea negatively because they have a Russian Oligarch owning them and funding them, then seem to consider the same thing in a lower league as encapsulating the pure essence of football.

Sour grapes? Youre talking to a person who very clearly has stated on this board when Brighton were near the top of the Championship that the club had alienated true fans, and that I didn't really like the club for what it had become, or for the 25,000 extra fair weather fans they inherited as a result.

Give me League Two football in an empty stand with 20 other guys who were mad enough to drive to Hartlepool on a Saturday morning at 6am anyday of the week over a stadium that serves craft ale, its own brand of designer jeans, and middle class football hipsters who melt away as soon as promotion is mathematically impossible.

Football isn't about winning for me, it was always about being part of something... the more success, the more you feel you aren't part of it....
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:30 pm

I do agree with alot of what you are saying Sussex and we have had this conversation before, and like you I would probably say I would prefer a game in division 2 in front of real fans instead of the plastic premiership, but at the end of the day you want your team to win games and if that means at the end of the day you get to mix it with the big boys for a while then part of you want to see what it like, however temporary it may end up being. Plus its nice that your team enjoys a higher media profile for a while although that can bring its disadvantages.

I'm not a die hard life long Bournemouth supporter in anycase. I've moved around a few times, and while I keep an interest in the teams I used to go and watch when I was a lad or as a young adult, I don't mind switching my allegiances when I move because it means I can go to more games. Same goes with cricket really as I've been a member of Hants, Kent and Northants in my time. Although now they don't play cricket at Bournemouth or Northlands Road anymore I don't get to see Hants very often these days.
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Re: Football league 2014/15

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:49 pm

'Tis the fickle nature of footy fans, that the people singing and chanting Eddie thingy's name after last night's match, will probably be the same people singing and chanting 'Eddie Out' in 9 months time, with Bournemouth rooted in the relegation zone; and the same people people complaining and boycotting matches because their billionaire owner didn't spend the £60 million Prem money plus £487 million of his own cash on Lionel Messi, Christiano Falltothefloorio, Eldis Caravanni, Edam Hazard, Steven Gerrard, Neymar, Bitethemall Suarez, and Harry Kane, but did try to recoup some of the money he'd already laid out giving those fans something to cheer about in the first place.
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