County Fantasy Manager 2015

[st_brendy]

I'll have to use my left over money to take Yardy and Masters back off Hope, and then leave rest for the lottery I guess.

[st_brendy]

I'll have to use my left over money to take Yardy and Masters back off Hope, and then leave rest for the lottery I guess.

Oh no, we've still got round 4 to potentially spend some of money.

[hopeforthebest]

I'll have to use my left over money to take Yardy and Masters back off Hope, and then leave rest for the lottery I guess.

The way things are going for me you'll probably get them. I thought ian said this year only three rounds of bidding.

[sussexpob]

Plenty of players are still in there

[ianp1970]

Players won after the 2nd round:

[ianp1970]

Players going to a 3rd round:

[ianp1970]

Budget information:

[ianp1970]

Reminder of the auction details:

Auction

Okay. This is how the auction is going to work:

£1,500,000 to spend in an auction that will have a maximum of 4 rounds. The minimum differential level between bids will be £10,000: i.e. you could bid £10,000, £50,000 or £250,000 for a player, but not £25,000 or £30,001.

Round 1

The highest bidder for a player in round 1 is guaranteed the final bid. They cannot be outbidded without having a chance to counter. This will give a big advantage to people bidding high in round 1 for the top players. It gives them control.

Round 2

In this round people have the chance to outbid the leading bidder. If nobody outbids the leading bidder, that player is won.

Players can also bid for anyone who wasn't bidded for in round 1. If they are the only one, they will win that player. (it would be logical for people to only bid list price for the players who didn't receive a bid in round 1.)

Round 3

In this round the leading bidder from Round 1 can respond to the Round 2 bids by bidding £10,000 more than the highest Round 2 bid, if they choose to, and will automatically win the player.

Any player who didn't receive a bid in round 1, but multiple managers bidded for in round 2, can be bidded on again by anyone who bidded in round 2. The highest bidder will win that player.

Anyone who hadn't been bidded on prior to this point will go to the highest bidder after this round.

Round 4

This round will just be for anyone who hasn't spent all their money, to pick up any players that are still available. This round will be a blind auction, with the team bidding the most for each player being allocated them.

[ianp1970]

Ian, how are we doing the tie-breakers? I think I had Read, Ansari and Miles as tied but seem to have got 0 out of 3 whereas I guess you'd expect to get one or two if it was done randomly.

I was going to post this up but ran out of time this morning. I took the first digit of the 7th bid for each manager. Fir tied bids add the two numbers together then if the answer is odd then the first initially takes it and if it is even then the second takes it.

Will post the details later when I get a chance.

This is one bit that people struggle with each year, but I have yet to be offered a better option!

We could just take the players out of the following round and just say the two posters bid again and the highest wins.

However, we should at least have a rule that says if you lose one tie-breaker to another poster then any following ties between those two posters should alternate. It feels wrong that we had two ties between us and both players go to the same poster. Not saying its intentional or personal in any way, but systems have their peculiarities and, at the moment, if 2 posters have 10 tied bids then I think one poster would get all 10 and the other poster would get 0 - just a peculiarity that we need to change imo. I agree that it's a difficult area to get right and I am pretty sure I wouldn't have foreseen this either!

Fair point RD

If we use the same system next year I will go for alternate tie-break leaders if there is more than one matching top bid from the same pair of managers.

I think we should bring it in immediately before you completely kill my team - at this rate I think I'll have lost 6 players to you which seems to make a bit of a mockery of the process - more than half a team is a bit extreme

As there is only you and I with multiple tiebreakers between us, I would have gone down this route anyway However, as 4 of the 6 ties were players only bidded on in round 2, there is still another round to go...

Dilshan, McKay, Meschede and Shahzad are going to the 3rd round between the pair of us.
Ansari has gone to me as the first tiebreaker between us.
You and Bhavesh are currently jointly leading for Miles, with Sussex and myself also allowed to bid again for him in the third round.

[hopeforthebest]

I feel I've entered a card game with a load of card sharps who are fleecing me left right and centre. I thought I understood the bidding rules but quite clearly I had no understanding at all.

[Red Devil]

I feel I've entered a card game with a load of card sharps who are fleecing me left right and centre. I thought I understood the bidding rules but quite clearly I had no understanding at all.

I think we all feel a bit like that!

[Red Devil]

As there is only you and I with multiple tiebreakers between us, I would have gone down this route anyway However, as 4 of the 6 ties were players only bidded on in round 2, there is still another round to go...

Dilshan, McKay, Meschede and Shahzad are going to the 3rd round between the pair of us.
Ansari has gone to me as the first tiebreaker between us.
You and Bhavesh are currently jointly leading for Miles, with Sussex and myself also allowed to bid again for him in the third round.

6 identical bids is a lot - if this continues I'm going to suspect telepathy!

It's clearly a case of 'great minds think alike'!!!

[Red Devil]

Ian, you have me leading on Read with 80 and it going to a coin flip. but DFM has already bid 100 if he doesn't get the coin flip - so can we just do the coin flip?

If i win the coin flip then DFM has bid 100 and has highest bid on Read, and if i lose the coin flip then I don't have him anyway. Either way I don't have Read but he's using up 80k of my budget - so in my next round of bids I'm just going to assume that I have that additional 80 to spend elsewhere (i.e. total left to spend of 700) or use that and more on upping my bid for Read to 110.

Also, if I'm jointly leading on Miles then I guess I don't have him and will need to rebid - therefore I assume that the 50k for him is not included in my spend to date and is included in he amount that I have left to spend?

[hopeforthebest]

Players going to a 3rd round:

Am I correct in believing that only those listed as 1st round leaders can bid on the players listed above.?

[ntini77]

I do believe I won Tom Cooper, not Powelly as stated.