England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby Aidan11 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:56 pm

Alviro Patterson wrote:No consideration from the ECB on how Yorkshire are supposed to field a side in the County Championship during April. Do they really need to select six players?


That was my thought at the time. What was it they use to say - A strong Yorkshire team means a strong England team?
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:58 pm

rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:Maybe they're going to play Ballance at 5 a position he often plays for Yorks, a round peg in a round hole?


he hasn't looked out of place at #3 in tests has he ?


Averages just 60 in tests.

Besides Moores clearly stated he saw Ballance as a number 3 batsman in tests. No need to move Ballance down the order for a player whose career is reaching the twilight zone.

Bairstow often bats at 5 for Yorkshire, where Ballance bats at 6.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby westoelad » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:58 pm

Alviro Patterson wrote:No consideration from the ECB on how Yorkshire are supposed to field a side in the County Championship during April. Do they really need to select six players?

Be very unfair on any individual to be excluded using that criteria AP.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby captaincolly » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:00 pm

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Alviro Patterson wrote:No consideration from the ECB on how Yorkshire are supposed to field a side in the County Championship during April. Do they really need to select six players?


That was my thought at the time. What was it they use to say - A strong Yorkshire team means a strong England team?

I know morale is low after the World Cup fiasco & England came a cropper in the first test of the last WI tour but I'd have gone for a more experimental squad here and left out a lot of the first choice players. I'd have rested Root, Anderson & Broad for starters.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:03 pm

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Alviro Patterson wrote:No consideration from the ECB on how Yorkshire are supposed to field a side in the County Championship during April. Do they really need to select six players?


That was my thought at the time. What was it they use to say - A strong Yorkshire team means a strong England team?


Or a strong England (just have to accept that bit) means a weak Yorkshire.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:03 pm

rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:Maybe they're going to play Ballance at 5 a position he often plays for Yorks, a round peg in a round hole?


he hasn't looked out of place at #3 in tests has he ?


No, not aginst SL and India bowling but decidedly suspect in the WC. Trott must surely be penciled in at three, so unless they rotate players where can he play. Too many choices for this tour means a lot of water carriers or rotation which is rare for England coaches.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby rich1uk » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:06 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:Maybe they're going to play Ballance at 5 a position he often plays for Yorks, a round peg in a round hole?


he hasn't looked out of place at #3 in tests has he ?


No, not aginst SL and India bowling but decidedly suspect in the WC. Trott must surely be penciled in at three, so unless they rotate players where can he play. Too many choices for this tour means a lot of water carriers or rotation which is rare for England coaches.


I don't think how he played at #3 in ODIs should have any bearing whatsoever on his test place
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:16 pm

Can'r see Trott replacing Ballance in the short term. Just he and Lyth will contest the opening. I think they'll go:

Cook
Trott/Lyth
Ballance
Bell
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Plunkett
Tredwell
Broad
Anderson.

Bench: Rashid/Wood/Jordan/Bairstow.

But, they are wedded to five bowlers unless somehow Trott and Lyth both play. Or Bairstow is seen as a front line batter again.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby rich1uk » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:23 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Can'r see Trott replacing Ballance in the short term. Just he and Lyth will contest the opening. I think they'll go:

Cook
Trott/Lyth
Ballance
Bell
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Plunkett
Tredwell
Broad
Anderson.

Bench: Rashid/Wood/Jordan/Bairstow.

But, they are wedded to five bowlers unless somehow Trott and Lyth both play. Or Bairstow is seen as a front line batter again.


nah bairstow will just be there as backup keeper , he is the one choice I have sympathy for hoggy over as I would have thought they could have got a backup keeper elsewhere rather than take someone else from Yorkshire who is unlikely to play barring an injury
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:38 pm

Maybe Moores want's rid of Bell so Trott is seen as his replacement. The idea of Trott opening was muted before but it never happened so unless Moores plans another stupid move it wont happen now.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:44 pm

Picking 6 from Yorkshire is really unfair, it only remains to be seen how many sit on the bench and make their selection even more unreasonable.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby Aidan11 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:10 pm

Ali Cook on an ego trip.


Get rid of him. He's in with Downton.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:31 pm

Is no one at the ECB listening to Moores, Downton and Cook with their head in their hands? They just bring embarrassment to the side.
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

Postby Aidan11 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:33 pm

When asked a difficult question, Moores replies "Does not compute, does not compute".
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Re: England tour of the Caribbean 2015, April 13-May 5

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