bhaveshgor wrote:good article by pringle.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... fling.html
The head of WICB should probably resign over this.
yeah BCCI are just doing this to cut teams they ideally only want 6-7 teams playing which is why they would probably run survival of the fittest for the boards.
that would allow India to have 2-3 home tours and visit 2-3 times a year and not waste time playing WI/NZ/Sri/Zim/Ban when they could be playing Pak/SA/Aus/Eng most of the time.
pompeymeowth wrote:bhaveshgor wrote:good article by pringle.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... fling.html
The head of WICB should probably resign over this.
yeah BCCI are just doing this to cut teams they ideally only want 6-7 teams playing which is why they would probably run survival of the fittest for the boards.
that would allow India to have 2-3 home tours and visit 2-3 times a year and not waste time playing WI/NZ/Sri/Zim/Ban when they could be playing Pak/SA/Aus/Eng most of the time.
Finally a Cameron who is "probably" worse than the one we have to endure.
clubcricketeradi wrote:The withdrawal from the tour of India will be a set back for WICB. BCCI has a reason to sue WICB as Indian series generate huge revenue rights in terms of broadcasters contracts. I guess the broadcasters would need to be paid back proportionate contract money which is lost revenue for both the broadcasters as well as BCCI. Without any series involving India, the chances of WICB improving their financial situation is less. BCCI will allow West Indies T20 superstars to play in IPL though. So at least the WI players will not suffer financially for sure. They will get the best salary for their specialized skills.
sussexpob wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:The withdrawal from the tour of India will be a set back for WICB. BCCI has a reason to sue WICB as Indian series generate huge revenue rights in terms of broadcasters contracts. I guess the broadcasters would need to be paid back proportionate contract money which is lost revenue for both the broadcasters as well as BCCI. Without any series involving India, the chances of WICB improving their financial situation is less. BCCI will allow West Indies T20 superstars to play in IPL though. So at least the WI players will not suffer financially for sure. They will get the best salary for their specialized skills.
Pretty sure under ICC regulations, all agreements are made under the laws of English courts, and therefore the WICB should be able to argue the contract is frustrated due to "Force Majeure". Regardless of the reasons why or the politics behind it, the WICB could not execute the tour due to the strike action being threatened by the players, and that was a decision that was outside of their control.
clubcricketeradi wrote:sussexpob wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:The withdrawal from the tour of India will be a set back for WICB. BCCI has a reason to sue WICB as Indian series generate huge revenue rights in terms of broadcasters contracts. I guess the broadcasters would need to be paid back proportionate contract money which is lost revenue for both the broadcasters as well as BCCI. Without any series involving India, the chances of WICB improving their financial situation is less. BCCI will allow West Indies T20 superstars to play in IPL though. So at least the WI players will not suffer financially for sure. They will get the best salary for their specialized skills.
Pretty sure under ICC regulations, all agreements are made under the laws of English courts, and therefore the WICB should be able to argue the contract is frustrated due to "Force Majeure". Regardless of the reasons why or the politics behind it, the WICB could not execute the tour due to the strike action being threatened by the players, and that was a decision that was outside of their control.
I dont know what is "Force Majeure" so i cannot reply properly. Still from whatever context i understand, BCCI will sue them (WICB) as they have stated iirc. Like you say and i agree that WICB has the to defend themselves. It is nothing more than my personal guess that BCCI will sue for lost revenue/unfullfilled contract. The outcome of the litigation we cannot tell now as to which side will win or lose in court.
sussexpob wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:The withdrawal from the tour of India will be a set back for WICB. BCCI has a reason to sue WICB as Indian series generate huge revenue rights in terms of broadcasters contracts. I guess the broadcasters would need to be paid back proportionate contract money which is lost revenue for both the broadcasters as well as BCCI. Without any series involving India, the chances of WICB improving their financial situation is less. BCCI will allow West Indies T20 superstars to play in IPL though. So at least the WI players will not suffer financially for sure. They will get the best salary for their specialized skills.
Pretty sure under ICC regulations, all agreements are made under the laws of English courts, and therefore the WICB should be able to argue the contract is frustrated due to "Force Majeure". Regardless of the reasons why or the politics behind it, the WICB could not execute the tour due to the strike action being threatened by the players, and that was a decision that was outside of their control.
sussexpob wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:sussexpob wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:The withdrawal from the tour of India will be a set back for WICB. BCCI has a reason to sue WICB as Indian series generate huge revenue rights in terms of broadcasters contracts. I guess the broadcasters would need to be paid back proportionate contract money which is lost revenue for both the broadcasters as well as BCCI. Without any series involving India, the chances of WICB improving their financial situation is less. BCCI will allow West Indies T20 superstars to play in IPL though. So at least the WI players will not suffer financially for sure. They will get the best salary for their specialized skills.
Pretty sure under ICC regulations, all agreements are made under the laws of English courts, and therefore the WICB should be able to argue the contract is frustrated due to "Force Majeure". Regardless of the reasons why or the politics behind it, the WICB could not execute the tour due to the strike action being threatened by the players, and that was a decision that was outside of their control.
I dont know what is "Force Majeure" so i cannot reply properly. Still from whatever context i understand, BCCI will sue them (WICB) as they have stated iirc. Like you say and i agree that WICB has the to defend themselves. It is nothing more than my personal guess that BCCI will sue for lost revenue/unfullfilled contract. The outcome of the litigation we cannot tell now as to which side will win or lose in court.
Force Majeure means "unavoidable accident" in Latin, and is usually put in contracts to account for unforeseen things that take away the ability to of one party to adhere to a contractual agreement. Usually they refer to "acts of god" like earthquake, storms, etc, but also to strikes and civil unrest.
A successful argument for a frustrsted contract would let the WICB off its breach of obligations. I guess the key of such an argument would be just how much the players threat to strike was real.
bhaveshgor wrote:sussexpob wrote:clubcricketeradi wrote:The withdrawal from the tour of India will be a set back for WICB. BCCI has a reason to sue WICB as Indian series generate huge revenue rights in terms of broadcasters contracts. I guess the broadcasters would need to be paid back proportionate contract money which is lost revenue for both the broadcasters as well as BCCI. Without any series involving India, the chances of WICB improving their financial situation is less. BCCI will allow West Indies T20 superstars to play in IPL though. So at least the WI players will not suffer financially for sure. They will get the best salary for their specialized skills.
Pretty sure under ICC regulations, all agreements are made under the laws of English courts, and therefore the WICB should be able to argue the contract is frustrated due to "Force Majeure". Regardless of the reasons why or the politics behind it, the WICB could not execute the tour due to the strike action being threatened by the players, and that was a decision that was outside of their control.
WICB might be able to do that in Court but very unlikely it would get to that stage considering BCCI would find other ways to get the money back from WICB.
I believe BCCI can ask ICC to ban WICB, Take away all ICC funding and give it to BCCI not sure their is a loophole in these two option.
Adi got a feeling that BCCI are under pressure here to actually have a home series from broadcaster and sponsors.
BCCI were pretty much the ones doing all the work WICB should have been doing IE Begging to the players, Talking to them, Trying to organize meeting between players and WICB officials and even offered paying the players the difference for this tour.
BCCI as a very valid reason to punish WICB here.
Although I wouldn't bankrupt WICB if I were in charge of BCCI.
I would probably use my power to get rid of most people in charge of WICB, Cancel the 2016 tour and probably charge $10 Million in 2017 when India tours so WICB don't get the full financial benefit of india visit in the first tour.
Just so annoying that India has to wait so long for a test match at home, people in india are getting desperate for it now.
You can actually sense the broadcaster, Sponsors, Fans and even BCCI all wanting it now.
If you think about it and the Tendulkar series didn't happen in 2013 and the 2014 cancellation happened it would be 3 yrs between the last test against Australia and the next one against SA which would be crazy considering India would have played 16 away test matches in a row.
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