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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Aidan11 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:00 pm

I haven't been this shocked since Bill Grundy interviewed The Sex Pistols.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby captaincolly » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:13 pm

sussexpob wrote:Probably the most interesting point in Strauss commentary career. He has a right to hold such an opinion, but he should be sacked for airing it

Even though he didn't deliberately air it?
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:15 pm

I guess I thought an apology should have been enough for KP in 2012, and it should be enough now. Both intended their comments to be private. Both humiliated themselves by their comments, rather than their targets.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:16 pm

captaincolly wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Probably the most interesting point in Strauss commentary career. He has a right to hold such an opinion, but he should be sacked for airing it

Even though he didn't deliberately air it?


Similar to Gray and Keys.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:19 pm

Dr Robert wrote:Similar to Gray and Keys.

Their comments were far worse though.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:20 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
Dr Robert wrote:Similar to Gray and Keys.

Their comments were far worse though.


Can't actually remember tbh. Maybe similar to Atkinson is more apt?
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby captaincolly » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:21 pm

Dr Robert wrote:
captaincolly wrote:
sussexpob wrote:Probably the most interesting point in Strauss commentary career. He has a right to hold such an opinion, but he should be sacked for airing it

Even though he didn't deliberately air it?


Similar to Gray and Keys.

They made sexist remarks deemed unacceptable, Straussy just accidentally swore live on air. I was in two minds over the decision to sack those two-can't stand their laddish 'humour' and they seem like two reprehensible characters but at the same time I'm not sure if it was right to sack them for comments never intended to be broadcast. On balance it probably was.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:27 pm

Keys and Gray insulted ALL Women, which is roughly 50% of the population, Strauss insulted 1 person, its not like he went on a tirade on live air.

2 incidents are completely different. SkySportsNews interviewed a guy who said "sh*tstorm" live on tele yesterday, David Lloyd was talking about Dolly Partons t*ts live on air last week with no backlash, this is a minor misdemeanor.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:32 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:Keys and Gray insulted ALL Women, which is roughly 50% of the population, Strauss insulted 1 person, its not like he went on a tirade on live air.

2 incidents are completely different. SkySportsNews interviewed a guy who said "sh*tstorm" live on tele yesterday, David Lloyd was talking about Dolly Partons t*ts live on air last week with no backlash, this is a minor misdemeanor.


what did they say again? i remember some 'banter' between gray and one of the sky sports female presenters?
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby captaincolly » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:32 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:Keys and Gray insulted ALL Women, which is roughly 50% of the population, Strauss insulted 1 person, its not like he went on a tirade on live air.

2 incidents are completely different. SkySportsNews interviewed a guy who said "sh*tstorm" live on tele yesterday, David Lloyd was talking about Dolly Partons t*ts live on air last week with no backlash, this is a minor misdemeanor.

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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:33 pm

Not like Big Ron either. Those cases were about sexism and racism. Strauss & KP were unethical (and stupid) in different ways, but their comments were victimless.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:36 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Not like Big Ron either. Those cases were about sexism and racism. Strauss & KP were unethical (and stupid) in different ways, but their comments were victimless.


both made one remark, which shouldn't have been said. Everyone know's Atkinson is a bit of an arrogant so an so, but no racist. I would say these incidents are very similar.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:39 pm

SaintPowelly wrote: SkySportsNews interviewed a guy who said "sh*tstorm" live on tele yesterday, David Lloyd was talking about Dolly Partons t*ts live on air last week with no backlash, this is a minor misdemeanor.


Swearing on tv is a bit different from abuse, which is what Strauss was guilty of. And *modded* and tits are words that have a home on certain parts of the tv, but I'm not sure *modded* is acceptable anywhere, before the watershed anyway.

It'd be funnier if it was Nick Knight.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:41 pm

Dr Robert wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Not like Big Ron either. Those cases were about sexism and racism. Strauss & KP were unethical (and stupid) in different ways, but their comments were victimless.


both made one remark, which shouldn't have been said. Everyone know's Atkinson is a bit of an arrogant so an so, but no racist. I would say these incidents are very similar.


He made racist comments whilst in the Big Brother house too, which says alot.
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Re: England end KP's international career.

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:41 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
Dr Robert wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Not like Big Ron either. Those cases were about sexism and racism. Strauss & KP were unethical (and stupid) in different ways, but their comments were victimless.


both made one remark, which shouldn't have been said. Everyone know's Atkinson is a bit of an arrogant so an so, but no racist. I would say these incidents are very similar.


He made racist comments whilst in the Big Brother house too, which says alot.


What did he say?
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