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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue May 06, 2014 6:39 pm

I guess sixteen wickets in three days isn't likely to herald twelve in one day.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby hopeforthebest » Tue May 06, 2014 6:47 pm

Having seen on Sky the number of catches the Yorks slip fielders have grounded it maybe the reason the bowlers have taken fewer wickets this year. I was impressed by both Sidebottom and Plunkett but Bresnan hardly reached 79mph whilst I was watching, so work in progress there.

Great win for Warwickshire as they bowled out Middlesex and win by 47 runs on day 3. By all accounts on a pitch made for batting.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue May 06, 2014 7:13 pm

excellent result for Warks :salute
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby sussexpob » Tue May 06, 2014 7:24 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:excellent result for Warks :salute


It seems that in order to beat Middlesex, just get passed the openers and the rest cant wait to get back to have a shower.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue May 06, 2014 7:26 pm

sussexpob wrote:
Durhamfootman wrote:excellent result for Warks :salute


It seems that in order to beat Middlesex, just get passed the openers and the rest cant wait to get back to have a shower.

That has been true for about 2 or 3 years now. You'd have thought they'd have done something about that
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Alviro Patterson » Tue May 06, 2014 7:29 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:Having seen on Sky the number of catches the Yorks slip fielders have grounded it maybe the reason the bowlers have taken fewer wickets this year. I was impressed by both Sidebottom and Plunkett but Bresnan hardly reached 79mph whilst I was watching, so work in progress there.

Great win for Warwickshire as they bowled out Middlesex and win by 47 runs on day 3. By all accounts on a pitch made for batting.


Hard to generate pace on such a sluggish pitch, even Jacky Brooks is not bowling as fast as he's done against Northants.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby D/L » Tue May 06, 2014 9:52 pm

Alviro Patterson wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:Having seen on Sky the number of catches the Yorks slip fielders have grounded it maybe the reason the bowlers have taken fewer wickets this year. I was impressed by both Sidebottom and Plunkett but Bresnan hardly reached 79mph whilst I was watching, so work in progress there.

Great win for Warwickshire as they bowled out Middlesex and win by 47 runs on day 3. By all accounts on a pitch made for batting.

Hard to generate pace on such a sluggish pitch, even Jacky Brooks is not bowling as fast as he's done against Northants.

Yes, Plunkett apart, pace through the air was down for all our pace bowlers today. This would have had something to do with fatigue and the prospect of bowling a long time but also, on the sort of pitch we saw today, the lack of reward that anything less than express pace brings.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Alviro Patterson » Tue May 06, 2014 10:13 pm

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hopeforthebest wrote:Having seen on Sky the number of catches the Yorks slip fielders have grounded it maybe the reason the bowlers have taken fewer wickets this year. I was impressed by both Sidebottom and Plunkett but Bresnan hardly reached 79mph whilst I was watching, so work in progress there.

Great win for Warwickshire as they bowled out Middlesex and win by 47 runs on day 3. By all accounts on a pitch made for batting.

Hard to generate pace on such a sluggish pitch, even Jacky Brooks is not bowling as fast as he's done against Northants.

Yes, Plunkett apart, pace through the air was down for all our pace bowlers today. This would have had something to do with fatigue and the prospect of bowling a long time but also, on the sort of pitch we saw today, the lack of reward that anything less than express pace brings.


The amount of spin Rashid was getting, i'm surprised Williamson didn't bowl more overs or even Adam Lyth had a go.

If only Anthony McGrath is still playing for Yorkshire, he would've made the breakthrough needed to enforce the follow on.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue May 06, 2014 11:28 pm

I missed the last session, but the only time I saw Rashid turn the ball much previously was with rather round armed flat deliveries speared into the rough from the right hand bowlers, bowling round the wicket. Wouldn't it be that Williamson's off spin couldn't exploit that rough very usefully?

Rashid got some useful drift and dip by the way when bowling over the wicket. He was a bit unlucky with some drives that evaded fielders in the ring.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed May 07, 2014 12:16 am

A quote from George Dobell:

"International calls will continue to dig deep into the Warwickshire squad. But they hope to have Bell, Woakes et al. back for the game at Yorkshire"

That's great news if it turns out that way. The game is 11th- 14th may but with the first ODI v SL on the 20th May will Moores really make them available?
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed May 07, 2014 12:24 am

Who are et al? Are Bell and Woakes not the only call ups, unless Porterfield is playing for Ireland somewhere?

Still, it's a week before. They should play.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed May 07, 2014 12:44 am

Hopefully Yorkshire will be fielding the strongest possible squad against Warwickshire

Lyth, Root, Williamson, Gale, Ballance, Bairstow, Rashid, Bresnan, Plunkett, Sidebottom, Brooks.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed May 07, 2014 5:27 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Who are et al? Are Bell and Woakes not the only call ups, unless Porterfield is playing for Ireland somewhere?

Still, it's a week before. They should play.


Warks are missing a lot of players at present:

Boyd Rankin (rested?), Ian Bell (England), Jonathan Trott (Injured), Chris Woakes (England), Rikki Clarke (Injured), William Porterfield (Ireland), Freddie Coleman (Injured?) and Jim Troughton (Injured?).
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby sussexpob » Wed May 07, 2014 8:15 am

Making_Splinters wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Who are et al? Are Bell and Woakes not the only call ups, unless Porterfield is playing for Ireland somewhere?

Still, it's a week before. They should play.


Warks are missing a lot of players at present:

Boyd Rankin (rested?), Ian Bell (England), Jonathan Trott (Injured), Chris Woakes (England), Rikki Clarke (Injured), William Porterfield (Ireland), Freddie Coleman (Injured?) and Jim Troughton (Injured?).


Boyd Rankin is playing in the Surrey 2nd XI game, took 3-20 in the first innings. He has been injured so they gave him a three day game as a warm up, he will play vs Yorks. Porterfield should be back by then too, as Sussex are counting on Ed Joyce to only miss the Lancs game.
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Re: CC discussion thread 2014

Postby sussexpob » Wed May 07, 2014 8:25 am

As for losing players, the ECB care more about pointless games in Aberdeen in Scotland early May (forecast is for 6 degrees and rain) than their premier domestic level teams playing full strength XI.

The Scotland game is utterly pointless, and what makes it more galling is the fact that the ECB withdrew England's players, while Matt Machan is finding time to bat for his county despite playing in the same match.

Why do the England team need a full week to prepare? Surely its better to have them playing?
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