Arthur Crabtree wrote:I went to 1990, but Walsh and Ambrose were going after that, and Marshall played for a few more years. But they didn't seem quite as formidable. For starters, England started to win Test against them.
Arthur Crabtree wrote:So KP has done well against ATGs like McGrath, Warne, Murali, Steyn, against mystery spin, and very fast bowlers like Lee, Shoaib, Johnson... but may not have done well against random greats of the past...
Arthur Crabtree wrote:So KP has done well against ATGs like McGrath, Warne, Murali, Steyn, against mystery spin, and very fast bowlers like Lee, Shoaib, Johnson... but may not have done well against random greats of the past. Maybe SRT would have done poorly against SF Barnes. Maybe Lara would have been undone by Lindwall and Miller.
We've established that he's consistent (a fifty every three innings), doesn't throw it away (one of he best ever conversion rates) with a good average (more or less equal best for 50 years) and longevity (among our top run scorers). But now he might have struggled against an attack from the past. Or (like every batter who's ever breathed) might not do as well against the very best bowlers.
I obviously have sympathy for KP. And this demonstrates why.
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Bishop played on with injuries for a bit. Maybe go to 95 then, after which his results started to suffer, and WI lost to Waugh's Australia.
Dr Robert wrote:greyblazer wrote:Not saying KP is an all time great which he isn't but how many could overcome the Windies foursome fearsome? Maybe one? Border?
Don't forget Allan Lamb
greyblazer wrote:Dr Robert wrote:greyblazer wrote:Not saying KP is an all time great which he isn't but how many could overcome the Windies foursome fearsome? Maybe one? Border?
Don't forget Allan Lamb
Those four? I'm not sure. Actually Roberts, Holding, Marshall and Garner hardly played together. The underrated Mohinder Amarnath pulled and hooked his way to success against those four quicks before the Windies bowlers took revenge by making him feel like Chris Martin when they toured India. I believe Border too stood up to those four or perhaps one of them was missing in the early 80s.
Arthur Crabtree wrote:So KP has done well against ATGs like McGrath, Warne, Murali, Steyn, against mystery spin, and very fast bowlers like Lee, Shoaib, Johnson... but may not have done well against random greats of the past. Maybe SRT would have done poorly against SF Barnes. Maybe Lara would have been undone by Lindwall and Miller.
We've established that he's consistent (a fifty every three innings), doesn't throw it away (one of he best ever conversion rates) with a good average (more or less equal best for 50 years) and longevity (among our top run scorers). But now he might have struggled against an attack from the past. Or (like every batter who's ever breathed) might not do as well against the very best bowlers.
I obviously have sympathy for KP. And this demonstrates why.
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