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[dan08]

Jadeja is now the number 1 ranked ODI bowler.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Only on alphabetical order ;)

Swann might leap the Test rankings a bit with his wickets in this series, though Philander and Steyn are out of sight at the top.

The ranking predictor, which is almost impossible to use now, seems to be saying that England will go ahead of India if they win this series 2-0.

[braveneutral]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23546528

Cricket in China.

[andy]

Great interview with Ray Price: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 57539.html

was a good interview, and farwell to a very handy bowler.

[meninblue]

Remove protective coating for Hot Spot - Brennan

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2 ... 61063.html

The coating on edges of the bat nowadays is thick enough and is always well stuck to wood. It might generate lesser sound than wood but the hot spot should not be affected.

[DeltaAlpha]

The coating on edges of the bat nowadays is thick enough and is always well stuck to wood. It might generate lesser sound than wood but the hot spot should not be affected.

Why do you say that, adi? Hotspot is sensitive to the nature - friction etc. - of the surface that the ball edges, so I would expect any change in the properties of the surface to affect Hotspot. Isn't that just what Brennan is saying?

[Aidan11]

The more I see hotspot, the more I feel it is a waste of time.

[meninblue]

The coating on edges of the bat nowadays is thick enough and is always well stuck to wood. It might generate lesser sound than wood but the hot spot should not be affected.

Why do you say that, adi? Hotspot is sensitive to the nature - friction etc. - of the surface that the ball edges, so I would expect any change in the properties of the surface to affect Hotspot. Isn't that just what Brennan is saying?

What you have mentioned is correct. Delta, it would also depend on the technology. Whether the snicko is better at capturing lesser sounds or whether the hot spot is better at capturing lesser impact. But the hot spot also picks up some glare. There were a few series where DRS worked so well. Now in this series it is probably working at half its potential as umpires are misinterpreting the reports of the technology devices.

[DeltaAlpha]

What you have mentioned is correct. Delta, it would also depend on the technology. Whether the snicko is better at capturing lesser sounds or whether the hot spot is better at capturing lesser impact. But the hot spot also picks up some glare. There were a few series where DRS worked so well. Now in this series it is probably working at half its potential as umpires are misinterpreting the reports of the technology devices.

[DeltaAlpha]

What you have mentioned is correct. Delta, it would also depend on the technology. Whether the snicko is better at capturing lesser sounds or whether the hot spot is better at capturing lesser impact. But the hot spot also picks up some glare. There were a few series where DRS worked so well. Now in this series it is probably working at half its potential as umpires are misinterpreting the reports of the technology devices.

I wonder whether the umpires are trying to be too clever, whether they're badly trained or just a tad dumb. Or whether those watching the umpires are getting a bit more savvy. Could be any of those...

[meninblue]

What you have mentioned is correct. Delta, it would also depend on the technology. Whether the snicko is better at capturing lesser sounds or whether the hot spot is better at capturing lesser impact. But the hot spot also picks up some glare. There were a few series where DRS worked so well. Now in this series it is probably working at half its potential as umpires are misinterpreting the reports of the technology devices.

I wonder whether the umpires are trying to be too clever, whether they're badly trained or just a tad dumb. Or whether those watching the umpires are getting a bit more savvy. Could be any of those...

Delta, i personally do not expect umpires or fielders or batters to hear every sound produced by ball striking the bat given varying levels of wind sound,audience sound and hearing capacity, natural deflection which gives false sense of edge, eye sight capacity etc. Even a no ball which happens a couple of metres away from umpire is difficult with the fading white line, previous footmarks. Umpiring is difficult also due to non playing people getting reviews about 5 to 10 times. It is time they get assistance of devices like other professionals and the technology become more error free the more it is used, the more better the devices get in upgraded version. IMO the umpires can only get better in decision making if they have advanced technology to assist them - in terms of probability atleast they are expected to give more correct decisions than wrong ones without technology. Third umpires probably get the video footage/slides/speed of footage assistance from device operators/assistants I guess their only job is to read and hear properly what devices show rather than operate the devices. Anyways operating them will become easy as they umpire in more matches. The onfield umpires should accept that the third umpires with technology 5 reviews of each devices are in better position to make a decision more often than not.

[DeltaAlpha]

Did I say otherwise, adi? It was you who raised the original point, and I was simply suggesting possible reasons:

There were a few series where DRS worked so well. Now in this series it is probably working at half its potential as umpires are misinterpreting the reports of the technology devices.

[meninblue]

Did I say otherwise, adi? It was you who raised the original point, and I was simply suggesting possible reasons:

There were a few series where DRS worked so well. Now in this series it is probably working at half its potential as umpires are misinterpreting the reports of the technology devices.

We both are saying same thing that umpires need to improve with so much of assistance of technology nowadays. Some other umpires have used the very same technology well in other series.

[DeltaAlpha]

Yeah, I suppose we are, adi. But the puzzling thing is why, when DRS has apparently been used successfully and without that much controversy in the past, has there been so much controversy in this Ashes series. What's changed? Is it the umpires or the perception of those watching them? Or something else?

[backfootpunch]

Yeah, I suppose we are, adi. But the puzzling thing is why, when DRS has apparently been used successfully and without that much controversy in the past, has there been so much controversy in this Ashes series. What's changed? Is it the umpires or the perception of those watching them? Or something else?

its probably that the aussies used it terribly in the first couple of tests and in the next couple the 3rd umpire has interpreted it incorrectly

there seems to be an uproar if a decision isnt correct with drs whereas it used to be brushed off as "part of the game", people seem to think that it should be 100% correct decision with drs and get very annoyed when that isnt the case and suggest that it isnt working even though it has significantly increased the number of correct decisions

hotspot seems to have gone backwards also, its like the cameras are less sensitive now or something