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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Fri May 17, 2013 12:10 pm

I think Ankeet will do a topsy turvy once out of police custody.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri May 17, 2013 12:12 pm

Rahane's a player that you might think he has too much to lose to get involved. Millions in likely future earnings, set against a few thousand dollars to live a life looking over his shoulder.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Fri May 17, 2013 12:13 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Rahane's a player that you might think he has too much to lose to get involved. Millions in likely future earnings, set against a few thousand dollars to live a life looking over his shoulder.


Same could be said of Aamir though.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri May 17, 2013 12:21 pm

True. Something that may be different, is that it seems that there have been allegations of a culture of illegal activity in the Pakistan team, from the top (Butt) down. It seems less likely that this is true of IPL teams. That might have influenced Amir, though of course, it doesn't excuse him.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Fri May 17, 2013 12:22 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:True. Something that may be different, is that it seems that there have been allegations of a culture of illegal activity in the Pakistan team, from the top (Butt) down. It seems less likely that this is true of IPL teams. That might have influenced Amir, though of course, it doesn't excuse him.


Seems the same in this case though, if atleast 3 ( possibly 5 ) players from the same side are involved.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Fri May 17, 2013 12:23 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Rahane's a player that you might think he has too much to lose to get involved. Millions in likely future earnings, set against a few thousand dollars to live a life looking over his shoulder.


The reports doing rounds are that two were approached . No names coming out. So most Indian fans doing guesswork. Let see what police say about it . The TV news is the channel to watch tonight.IMO these 3 are the only ones who will be kept in police station for interrogation.Don't see further arrests.

The only concrete thing that has come out is Ankeets confession.But i am guessing he will turn his words when he is out of jail.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby shankycricket » Fri May 17, 2013 12:37 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
shankycricket wrote:Can't believe people have stooped to the extent that they are bringing Rahane into all this. One of the nicer guys around in Indian cricket.


Whats being a nice guy got to do with anything ?? Crimes are often committed by "nice guys" and then you hear things like "he was the last guy I would of expected"

Its only a rumour.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Fri May 17, 2013 12:38 pm

shankycricket wrote:
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shankycricket wrote:Can't believe people have stooped to the extent that they are bringing Rahane into all this. One of the nicer guys around in Indian cricket.


Whats being a nice guy got to do with anything ?? Crimes are often committed by "nice guys" and then you hear things like "he was the last guy I would of expected"

Its only a rumour.


Yeah, but why did you mention him being "nice" :dunno

Its irrelevant.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby sussexpob » Fri May 17, 2013 1:04 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Rahane's a player that you might think he has too much to lose to get involved. Millions in likely future earnings, set against a few thousand dollars to live a life looking over his shoulder.


An illegal bookmaker could fix anything they want much easier than IPL games, with less risk and less money to those involved in fixing if it was all about generating money ... paying the top team of the Bulgarian Third League to lose a game against massive odds would be just as beneficial financially in winnings, if not vastly more, and cost a lot less.

The rise of global gambling in Asian markets should mean even if this is true, generally the match fixing is vastly more likely to occur in matches that have little interest in them.

I agree with SP on his points about gambling... legalising gambling in India would make this sort of behaviour disappear... there have been many sporting starts found guilty of fixing when regulators can assess a huge surge in betting on a nothing game and against the grain...
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri May 17, 2013 1:07 pm

I wonder if part of the reason for targeting IPL games is for the thrill, the glamour, and the sense of self importance?
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby sussexpob » Fri May 17, 2013 1:13 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I wonder if part of the reason for targeting IPL games is for the thrill, the glamour, and the sense of self importance?


Indeed it may be that. The uneducated bashing of crickters who get involved also doesnt correspond to reasoning, meaning that the most likely outcome is that cricketers are under some form of duress when it comes to accepting bookmakers offers.

If a player throws away a profitable career for a generous but meagre overall one off payment, it would uncover the fact, for me, that this is more about a few players getting more money
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby dan08 » Fri May 17, 2013 3:13 pm

I'm more surprised that the bookie was Amit Singh than that 3 people spot fixed.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby sussexpob » Fri May 17, 2013 3:21 pm

England's_No7 wrote:I'm more surprised that the bookie was Amit Singh than that 3 people spot fixed.


Or the public fall guy for a mafia boss who wont be caught
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby D/L » Fri May 17, 2013 4:11 pm

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D/L wrote:I spoke of honest bets, i.e. where neither party seeks to influence the outcome of the subject of the wager.

Are there no other bookies in India and do not the public have bets amongst themselves? If so, I’d suggest that there is some honest betting in India, probably quite a lot actually, and of course they are being ripped off when players take money from the dishonest bookies.


No, it is apparently monopoly business of the terrorist.I guess share of money probably goes to him, irrespective of the place where people place their bets.Even if i was in a country where betting was legal i would not bet due to guess that tit helps him and it can be used worldwide to cause deaths of innocent people as we have seen.Not just in India.

So, for every wager made in India, there is one person who gets a share of the stake, or the winnings. Wow.

In reality, there will be many bets made between parties who have no influence on the outcome. It is these people whom guilty players are ripping off.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Making_Splinters » Fri May 17, 2013 4:14 pm

Didn't prohibition in the U.S. show that making something illegal simply doesn't work.

Shouldn't India just legalise betting?
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