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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 1:34 pm

DeltaAlpha wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:Legalising gambling is the only way forward.

I don't see how that would help, SP. Loads of things are illegal but still happen.


Yes, i agree with Delta that legalizing will not get rid of match fixing.

For example; I assume cricket betting was made legal in your country before 2000 at least? But then the Pak-Eng test series happened later.Even the county fixing was reported last year.So even after decade the fixing is not solved.Indian environment is much bad in aspects like (governance, bureaucracy, corruption,underworld presence), so it is more difficult to get rid of fixing in India if it gets legalized.So if England cannot get rid of it how can India.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby braveneutral » Thu May 16, 2013 1:39 pm

Can we be careful about making assumptions about their guilt when I don't believe they have been found guilty yet.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu May 16, 2013 1:40 pm

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DeltaAlpha wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:Legalising gambling is the only way forward.

I don't see how that would help, SP. Loads of things are illegal but still happen.


Yes, i agree with Delta that legalizing will not get rid of match fixing.

For example; I assume cricket betting was made legal in your country before 2000 at least? But then the Pak-Eng test series happened later.Even the county fixing was reported last year.So even after decade the fixing is not solved.Indian environment is much bad in aspects like (governance, bureaucracy, corruption,underworld presence), so it is more difficult to get rid of fixing in India if it gets legalized.So if England cannot get rid of it how can India.


Adi, are you stupid ??

The county and Pakistan players were fixed from OUTSIDE England, from countries like India and Pakistan who had the games televised, it WASN'T English bookmakers tapping them up.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 1:43 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Did RR lose those? All the games I know of that were tampered with, the team of the offending player has lost. So there has been no problem leaving the result intact.



Rajasthan lost yesterdays match

Ankeet Chavan :60 lacs Yesterdays match between Rajasthan and Mumbai.

14 or more runs to be given in second over. Given. He gave 15 runs:

2.1


Chavan to Maxwell, SIX, short, slow and Maxwell's rocked back and smashed it over mid-wicket for a six, missed four, hit two

2.2


Chavan to Maxwell, 2 runs, and again, this was outside the off stump, was looking to hoick it away but not off the middle of the bat, couple of runs to the left of deep mid-wicket

2.3


Chavan to Maxwell, SIX, and now it's been smashed over the bowler's head for a six! it was fuller and Maxwell's tonking them away, over the bowler for a max!

2.4


Chavan to Maxwell, no run, shortens his length, on the middle stump and wants to cut it away, not off the middle to the short cover

2.5


Chavan to Maxwell, 1 run, and he is not holding back, was going down the track to smack it over the in-field, gets an inside edge that runs away to fine-leg for a single

2.6


Chavan to Tare, no run, quicker and flatter, patted to the off side and not for a run

===========================================================================================

Rajasthan won:

Signal: Pull up shirt twice .He forgot to do that but gave the number of runs.

I have just seen video of that over. Even commentator says that he is bowling wayward. Lots of easy balls there.

40 Lacs: 14 runs to be given by Chandila. Versus Pune Warriors.Given.

2.1


Chandila to Finch, 1 run, wide down the leg side, but he gets some bat on it, and takes a single to short fine

2.2


Chandila to Uthappa, FOUR, too straight with the fine leg up, and he has been swept away for four

2.3


Chandila to Uthappa, FOUR, too short, outside off, Uthappa backs away to make room and cut him in front of square for four

2.4


Chandila to Uthappa, no run, quicker delivery, skids on towards off, defended off the back foot

2.5


Chandila to Uthappa, 1 run, tossed up, middle and leg, driven to long-on

2.6


Chandila to Finch, FOUR, full, on the pads, and the leg-side field is up, and it has been swept away for four
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 1:44 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:
DeltaAlpha wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:Legalising gambling is the only way forward.

I don't see how that would help, SP. Loads of things are illegal but still happen.


Yes, i agree with Delta that legalizing will not get rid of match fixing.

For example; I assume cricket betting was made legal in your country before 2000 at least? But then the Pak-Eng test series happened later.Even the county fixing was reported last year.So even after decade the fixing is not solved.Indian environment is much bad in aspects like (governance, bureaucracy, corruption,underworld presence), so it is more difficult to get rid of fixing in India if it gets legalized.So if England cannot get rid of it how can India.


Adi, are you stupid ??

The county and Pakistan players were fixed from OUTSIDE England, from countries like India and Pakistan who had the games televised, it WASN'T English bookmakers tapping them up.


Did match fixing happen in England test and county.Yes or No ?

You mean court ruled kaneria guilty just like that.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu May 16, 2013 1:45 pm

clubcricketeradi wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:
DeltaAlpha wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:Legalising gambling is the only way forward.

I don't see how that would help, SP. Loads of things are illegal but still happen.


Yes, i agree with Delta that legalizing will not get rid of match fixing.

For example; I assume cricket betting was made legal in your country before 2000 at least? But then the Pak-Eng test series happened later.Even the county fixing was reported last year.So even after decade the fixing is not solved.Indian environment is much bad in aspects like (governance, bureaucracy, corruption,underworld presence), so it is more difficult to get rid of fixing in India if it gets legalized.So if England cannot get rid of it how can India.


Adi, are you stupid ??

The county and Pakistan players were fixed from OUTSIDE England, from countries like India and Pakistan who had the games televised, it WASN'T English bookmakers tapping them up.


Did match fixing happen in England test and county.Yes or No ?


Thats irrelevant, it was Indian bookmakers arranging it, not English.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 1:46 pm

It is relevant because fixing happened in county and it was proved in court and punishment given.Legalizing is not the solution.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu May 16, 2013 1:47 pm

clubcricketeradi wrote:It is relevant because fixing happened in county and it was proved in court and punishment given.Legalizing is not the solution.


Its official, you are stupid
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 1:49 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:It is relevant because fixing happened in county and it was proved in court and punishment given.Legalizing is not the solution.


Its official, you are stupid


IMO you are stupid because you are saying that fixing did not happen in county.You have higher authority than the court in England ?
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu May 16, 2013 1:51 pm

clubcricketeradi wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:It is relevant because fixing happened in county and it was proved in court and punishment given.Legalizing is not the solution.


Its official, you are stupid


IMO you are stupid because you are saying that fixing did not happen in county.You have higher authority than the court in England ?


What does that matter ? He was contacted by Indian bookmakers and PAID by Indian Bookmakers, What country the incident takes place in means F*CK ALL.

Indians and Pakistanis are fixing because gambling is illegal.

NO Englishman has been found guilty of organizing the fixing, because WE aren't doing it.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby DeltaAlpha » Thu May 16, 2013 1:52 pm

Calm down, guys...
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 1:52 pm

Links of underworld gangsters are popping up now.The evidence (records) they are broadcasting on news channels is shattering. How can the cricketers do it co comfortably and confidently.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 1:54 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
clubcricketeradi wrote:It is relevant because fixing happened in county and it was proved in court and punishment given.Legalizing is not the solution.


Its official, you are stupid


IMO you are stupid because you are saying that fixing did not happen in county.You have higher authority than the court in England ?


What does that matter ? He was contacted by Indian bookmakers and PAID by Indian Bookmakers, What country the incident takes place in means F*CK ALL.

Indians and Pakistanis are fixing because gambling is illegal.

NO Englishman has been found guilty of organizing the fixing, because WE aren't doing it.



By same token Dawood and his gangsters (based in Pak/Dubai/etc) out of India will fix matches in India.That's what i said, it's not a solution.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu May 16, 2013 1:56 pm

When gambling is legalized, patterns can be watched and regulated by the gambling authority to eradicate it. Easy.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Thu May 16, 2013 2:01 pm

The families of cricketers are saying it is a conspiracy. There was no evidence but Delhi police decided ok lets do time pass for today by arresting these 3 cricketers only. ;)

I'm watching the news now and the Commissioner is handling the press conference.Surely such a reputed person won't make fool of himself on such a wide scale. The recording that i have heard and the signals and performance performed during match are all as planned.
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