Sachin Tendulkar

[Making_Splinters]

Thrown out?

Pretty much what happened with VVS and why would Dravid bite the bullet considering the fairly amazing series he'd had in England?

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Did you watch Dravid in Australia? He was pretty much done, as that was going to be the 3rd time he would have to recover. That was 100% his decision, I don't doubt, especially as he did it just after the series ended unlike VVS. Wouldn't give any credit to selectors there for transitioning the side, they got a free opportunity to bed someone in.

VVS was probably nudged though although that wasn't with this current selection panel, who have actually transitioned the players well-ish. Even then he had to go. It was stupid that the old selection panel picked for the NZ series and then it changed for England which meant the current selectors couldn't change much before and during the England series. Their big mistake has been with Bhajji who they picked, rightly dropped and then decided to pick again ahead of the best spinner in India.

[Making_Splinters]

Did you watch Dravid in Australia? He was pretty much done, as that was going to be the 3rd time he would have to recover. That was 100% his decision, I don't doubt, especially as he did it just after the series ended unlike VVS. Wouldn't give any credit to selectors there for transitioning the side, they got a free opportunity to bed someone in.

VVS was probably nudged though although that wasn't with this current selection panel, who have actually transitioned the players well-ish. Even then he had to go. It was stupid that the old selection panel picked for the NZ series and then it changed for England which meant the current selectors couldn't change much before and during the England series. Their big mistake has been with Bhajji who they picked, rightly dropped and then decided to pick again ahead of the best spinner in India.

Yet Dravid had played a blinder against a very good pace attack in their home conditions just the series before, hardly the sign of someone who was "pretty much done".

VVS was clearly given marching orders, why would he wait so long after a series to call it a day otherwise?

[meninblue]

I have been reading/hearing since his debut 23 years back that he should be dropped. Things are same today as well. Like it or not but he has never been dropped in 23 years of test cricket and he won't be dropped however strong the agenda of his critics is. His 70 against Aussies when we were in trouble in the recent test was what bought India back in test match. India has depended heavily on him in both formats and even in this series his contributions have been timely.

[Making_Splinters]

I have been reading/hearing since his debut 23 years back that he should be dropped. Things are same today as well. Like it or not but he has never been dropped in 23 years of test cricket and he won't be dropped however strong the agenda of his critics is. His 70 against Aussies when we were in trouble in the recent test was what bought India back in test match. India has depended heavily on him in both formats and even in this series his contributions have been timely.

At some stage he will be dropped if he doesn't take matters into his own hands, one good series at home against a very poor bowling attack in the conditions - just to put it in context - does not make a summer.

India's next series is against the best pace attack in the world on what will be pace friendly wickets.

[ddb]

Yet Dravid had played a blinder against a very good pace attack in their home conditions just the series before, hardly the sign of someone who was "pretty much done".

Selective memory is all well and good too. Dravid timed his retirement well.

[ddb]

I have been reading/hearing since his debut 23 years back that he should be dropped. Things are same today as well. Like it or not but he has never been dropped in 23 years of test cricket and he won't be dropped however strong the agenda of his critics is. His 70 against Aussies when we were in trouble in the recent test was what bought India back in test match. India has depended heavily on him in both formats and even in this series his contributions have been timely.

At some stage he will be dropped if he doesn't take matters into his own hands, one good series at home against a very poor bowling attack in the conditions - just to put it in context - does not make a summer.

India's next series is against the best pace attack in the world on what will be pace friendly wickets.

He should have been dropped after the Eng series but wasn't.

[meninblue]

I have been reading/hearing since his debut 23 years back that he should be dropped. Things are same today as well. Like it or not but he has never been dropped in 23 years of test cricket and he won't be dropped however strong the agenda of his critics is. His 70 against Aussies when we were in trouble in the recent test was what bought India back in test match. India has depended heavily on him in both formats and even in this series his contributions have been timely.

At some stage he will be dropped if he doesn't take matters into his own hands, one good series at home against a very poor bowling attack in the conditions - just to put it in context - does not make a summer.

India's next series is against the best pace attack in the world on what will be pace friendly wickets.

He will be not be dropped because he won't fail as he has got into habit of succeeding more often than not for 23 years. He will retire when his fitness will become a problem. Until he is fit his form will stay, such is his ability. His retirement will depend on his fitness and he will announce his retirement once he knows his body is letting him down.

[Making_Splinters]

I have been reading/hearing since his debut 23 years back that he should be dropped. Things are same today as well. Like it or not but he has never been dropped in 23 years of test cricket and he won't be dropped however strong the agenda of his critics is. His 70 against Aussies when we were in trouble in the recent test was what bought India back in test match. India has depended heavily on him in both formats and even in this series his contributions have been timely.

At some stage he will be dropped if he doesn't take matters into his own hands, one good series at home against a very poor bowling attack in the conditions - just to put it in context - does not make a summer.

India's next series is against the best pace attack in the world on what will be pace friendly wickets.

He will be not be dropped because he won't fail as he has got into habit of succeeding more often than not for 23 years. He will retire when his fitness will become a problem. Until he is fit his form will stay, such is his ability. His retirement will depend on his fitness and he will announce his retirement once he knows his body is letting him down.

He won't fail where?

In South Africa?

That's a rather large statement to make.

As for his fitness, how is he going to stay match fit seeing as the next Test series isn't untill November?

[SaintPowelly]

Personally I think Steyn and co. will destroy SRT, based on what I have seen in the last few months, certainly will be interesting viewing.

[meninblue]

I have been reading/hearing since his debut 23 years back that he should be dropped. Things are same today as well. Like it or not but he has never been dropped in 23 years of test cricket and he won't be dropped however strong the agenda of his critics is. His 70 against Aussies when we were in trouble in the recent test was what bought India back in test match. India has depended heavily on him in both formats and even in this series his contributions have been timely.

At some stage he will be dropped if he doesn't take matters into his own hands, one good series at home against a very poor bowling attack in the conditions - just to put it in context - does not make a summer.

India's next series is against the best pace attack in the world on what will be pace friendly wickets.

He will be not be dropped because he won't fail as he has got into habit of succeeding more often than not for 23 years. He will retire when his fitness will become a problem. Until he is fit his form will stay, such is his ability. His retirement will depend on his fitness and he will announce his retirement once he knows his body is letting him down.

He won't fail where?

In South Africa?

That's a rather large statement to make.

As for his fitness, how is he going to stay match fit seeing as the next Test series isn't untill November?

I wonder how it can be said that he will fail even when he has not even stepped in South Africa. I am aware of what he does to maintain his fitness and skills in Mumbai when he is not on cricket tours. I bet he will retire and won't be dropped as has been the case in 23 years of his international career. Fair enough if some feel he will be dropped. Let time tell whether he is dropped or retires.

[Making_Splinters]

I have been reading/hearing since his debut 23 years back that he should be dropped. Things are same today as well. Like it or not but he has never been dropped in 23 years of test cricket and he won't be dropped however strong the agenda of his critics is. His 70 against Aussies when we were in trouble in the recent test was what bought India back in test match. India has depended heavily on him in both formats and even in this series his contributions have been timely.

At some stage he will be dropped if he doesn't take matters into his own hands, one good series at home against a very poor bowling attack in the conditions - just to put it in context - does not make a summer.

India's next series is against the best pace attack in the world on what will be pace friendly wickets.

He will be not be dropped because he won't fail as he has got into habit of succeeding more often than not for 23 years. He will retire when his fitness will become a problem. Until he is fit his form will stay, such is his ability. His retirement will depend on his fitness and he will announce his retirement once he knows his body is letting him down.

He won't fail where?

In South Africa?

That's a rather large statement to make.

As for his fitness, how is he going to stay match fit seeing as the next Test series isn't untill November?

I wonder how it can be said that he will fail even when he has not even stepped in South Africa. I am aware of what he does to maintain his fitness and skills in Mumbai when he is not on cricket tours. I bet he will retire and won't be dropped as has been the case in 23 years of his international career. Fair enough if some feel he will be dropped. Let time tell whether he is dropped or retires.

You seem to missunderstand the point, Tendulkar will be dropped at some stage unless he retires.

VVS was essentially dropped, the very same will happen to Tendulkar unless he displays the ability to smell which way the wind is blowing like Dravid did.

[meninblue]

I have a different opinion to yours on this one. Sachin will retire. Agree to disagree

[Making_Splinters]

Oh he'll retire, whether or not it will actually be at a time of his own choosing is a completely seperate manner.

Like I said previously, technically VVS retired.

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Oh he'll retire, whether or not it will actually be at a time of his own choosing is a completely seperate manner.

Like I said previously, technically VVS retired.

It will be a time of his choosing. Sachin is altogether different class of VVS and Rahul. Both of them have commented that he is the best they have seen. His innings of 70 was quality in the first test. Facing in form Pattinson with almost two back to back wickets and India under pressure of a historic series defeat versus England. How his innings changed things into India's favor gradually is there for all of us to see. many will only remember Dhoni's 224 obviously, but it was Sachin who weathered the storm when it was at its full force.