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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Tue May 15, 2012 5:37 pm

ddb wrote:I don't have a clue what you are on about Adi. If you want to believe everything India TV says, then more fool you, frankly.

Read this if you haven't seen the video:

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I am referring to another feed shown last or couple of years back on news. The prominent bookie was showed to be in dressing room during match. I think the match was at Delhi.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Tue May 15, 2012 5:38 pm

Right...great proof.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Tue May 15, 2012 5:40 pm

Yup, thats not all. There are some club cricket match umpires who are requested to give outs / not outs. It's corrupted all levels of cricket.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Tue May 15, 2012 5:42 pm

Cricket would be fun to watch if everyone was betting against themselves.

Bowler that doesnt want a wicket versus batsman that wants to get out, its the way the game is going, may aswell embrace it.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Tue May 15, 2012 5:43 pm

I was being sarcastic.

It will go on, fixing, but when there's no proof at all, I don't see a reason to believe that it is going on in that league.

People are so easily led by a sensationalist media, it annoys me because I've seen the "evidence" for myself.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Tue May 15, 2012 5:46 pm

ddb wrote:I was being sarcastic.

It will go on, fixing, but when there's no proof at all, I don't see a reason to believe that it is going on in that league.

People are so easily led by a sensationalist media, it annoys me because I've seen the "evidence" for myself.



What more proof than bookie being present in dressing room during a match. :dunno As per my knowledge only cricketers, support staff and clubc ricketers with special duty passes are allowed in dressing room. That is enough proof for me. I don't really need to see cash etc over there.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Tue May 15, 2012 5:49 pm

sportbloggeradi wrote:
ddb wrote:I was being sarcastic.

It will go on, fixing, but when there's no proof at all, I don't see a reason to believe that it is going on in that league.

People are so easily led by a sensationalist media, it annoys me because I've seen the "evidence" for myself.



What more proof than bookie being present in dressing room during a match. :dunno As per my knowledge only cricketers, support staff and clubc ricketers with special duty passes are allowed in dressing room. That is enough proof for me. I don't really need to see cash etc over there.


You believe what you want, I'm not here to convince you.

If people want to believe things that aren't true based on the evidence provided, it's up to them.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Tue May 15, 2012 5:56 pm

ddb wrote:
sportbloggeradi wrote:
ddb wrote:I was being sarcastic.

It will go on, fixing, but when there's no proof at all, I don't see a reason to believe that it is going on in that league.

People are so easily led by a sensationalist media, it annoys me because I've seen the "evidence" for myself.



What more proof than bookie being present in dressing room during a match. :dunno As per my knowledge only cricketers, support staff and clubc ricketers with special duty passes are allowed in dressing room. That is enough proof for me. I don't really need to see cash etc over there.


You believe what you want, I'm not here to convince you.

If people want to believe things that aren't true based on the evidence provided, it's up to them.


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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby braveneutral » Tue May 15, 2012 7:34 pm

I didn't watch the video yet. I have seen Srinivasan saying that there will be action, but I was going on the article which I posted here:

It showed these players discussing the alleged involvement of IPL captains and even team owners in such activities and engaging in lengthy haggling over the price of bowling a no-ball on demand in the IPL.


If this is wrong, then it is poor journalism.

In genreal, it doesn't matter if it is sensationalist or not. It needs to be taken seriously. It doesn't matter which tournament, whether it is a small time match or a large scale match, there need to be the same consequences because it would seems odd if it is happening at one level with some players, but not at another with the same players.

I will watch the video now.
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I suppose.

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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby braveneutral » Tue May 15, 2012 7:36 pm

Oh there is no video linked here.

From my understanding of it, the deals is a side issue which has got muddied up in with the fixing.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Tue May 15, 2012 8:54 pm

braveneutral wrote:If this is wrong, then it is poor journalism.


Yeah it's wrong, without doubt. That's baseless allegation but it's Indian media, what you expect. I haven't seen a completely accurate article over this, really.

braveneutral wrote:there need to be the same consequences because it would seems odd if it is happening at one level with some players, but not at another with the same players.


The risk of someone finding out you spot fixing a league game is nowhere near an IPL game. One is under the ASCU (IPL) This isn't I don't think.

And all India TV had proof for TP was a local game, where the no ball was double Amir's.

You must see, there are 5 stories at play here.

braveneutral wrote:Oh there is no video linked here.

From my understanding of it, the deals is a side issue which has got muddied up in with the fixing.

4 out of the 5 players were the black money. What bad media we have if that's what you got from the articles. :no

Just search India TV IPL fixing in youtube for the vid.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby braveneutral » Tue May 15, 2012 10:15 pm

Ah I meant it was an issue which should have been reported seperately. I.e. You can't have a headline saying massive spot-fixing ring, and then go on to not talk about any fixing which is what this deals thing has lead to. It is misinformation.

Ah, I will look for the vid in a bit thanks.

So, I take it from what you have put, the sting was on five players but all seperately?

If so, is it a coincidence that all of them played ICL, or was that perhaps the intended result.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Tue May 15, 2012 10:33 pm

10 players they say but I expect it is more.

Just these 5 players were not clean.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Making_Splinters » Tue May 15, 2012 10:35 pm

The only thing to worry about is when they start inventing cricketers who aren't daft enough to talk slowly and clearly in to the shiney button on a person they've hardly met before's tie.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Wed May 16, 2012 4:41 am

There is so much tolerance towards fixing nowadays as fixers are increasing in numbers. A separate tournament should be held with all the fixers involved. Cricket fixing league :laugh
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