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Re: India the Future?

Postby andy » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:41 pm

i hope they give fletcher time to build a new side, because this one will clearly be in transition....give him time to build, and if still fails then maybe consider coaching changes.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby vindalf » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:59 am

Fletcher should sit his boys down and make them read this:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v- ... 51702.html
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Re: India the Future?

Postby andy » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:56 am

however by the time the next series starts, if dravid, laxman, and to a certain extent sachin, are still in the side, then something is seriously wrong.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby braveneutral » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:09 pm

The future is bright, the future is orange and erm... blue.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby andy » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:03 pm

braveneutral wrote:The future is bright, the future is orange and erm... blue.




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Re: India the Future?

Postby OffStumpYorker » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:13 am

Its not really a suprice, but even after back to back 4-0 away series loses, most boards would have at least looked at the selectors and domestic situation to see if there was anything they could do to improve overseas performances, but not the BCCI they are still burying thier heads in the sand and ignoring the obvious.

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Re: India the Future?

Postby Making_Splinters » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:40 am

He is quite correct though, there is no need for an inquiry, just the Captain, Coach and Sellectors sitting down and having a chat about the future.

It seems to be more a case of, no one involved in Indian Cricket wants to publically wield the axe against these iconic players.

As always you never actually know what is going on inside the bubble.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby ddb » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:53 am

TBF, the money they stand to lose from sponsors is immense when Sachin goes...Dravid, VVS...not so much.

Nimbus already is trying to claim 120 Million or something because India rested players for the ODI's plus we're not playing Pakistan.

And they've already done one thing right by getting a new bowling coach by Penney's recommendation. Now just swap Fletch for Moody.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby OffStumpYorker » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:56 am

Isnt there also some problem with Sahara's sponsorship which runs out soon.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby ddb » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:01 pm

http://bit.ly/xGRUIt

Good interview this.

And this is good news as well: http://es.pn/wzdOer
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Re: India the Future?

Postby OffStumpYorker » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:33 am

ddb, some nice articles, especially the first one.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby meninblue » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:33 pm

T20 is the future for India and India will be masters at it, both home and away. Thanks to IPL. I am very optimistic that we have a great future as far as T20 is concerned, in sub con or even in hostile conditions like England . In an few years time we will have a vast experienced bench strength of domestic players. Imagine 20 year Apporva Wankhede playing alongside Sachin Tendulkar , Keiron Pollard, Malinga etc. There is so much that the cream of our Under 22 players are going to learn. In few years times by ways of IPL, they will have played alongside best and played against the best, even if they don't get a game in entire season of IPL or get a chance in future seasons of IPL. Atleast they will be at nets with the international superstars and gaining the tacit knowledge.

As far as ODI's are concerned i think we will benefit from the T20 exposure. I would say that we will be a very competitive ODI team in sub continent. Also our ODI fielding will be much improved and we will have better bench strength in this format. I am skeptical about the away tours though. We lack batters have good footwork and who can cover the swing. There are natural stroke players aplenty but they lack temperament to post a big knock in such conditions. Modest totals will be made and we don't have the bowling attack to defend those. They even didn't plan to experiment with pitches for the Vijay Hazare trophy. That is what disappointed me the most. The strategy is missing.

In tests, well, the retirements of Rahul, Sachin and VVS in coming two three years might be a doomsday. With the advent of T20 in India, it's influence on skills on Indian cricketers,the creation of the Elite and Plate divisions in Ranji cricket will hamper the proper grooming of the Test Players. Remember that Sachin, Rahul and VVS all emerged from a different Ranji system. They did not have T20 tournaments for their respective zones so they concentrated more on classical batting sessions in nets and did not compromise for technique. There are selection issues as well in this format. We can get away with a selection error in ODI because we have good bench strength in it, but selection error in tests will be very risky.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby vindalf » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:42 am

sportbloggeradi wrote:T20 is the future for India


I sure hope you are wrong on that one. That will be the day I say goodbye to cricket spectatorship for good.

sportbloggeradi wrote: and India will be masters at it, both home and away.

It's curious that you say that because the format will always be a bit of a crapshoot for me. Maybe they will. Dunno. By the way, India isn't very good at international T20 cricket at the moment. They have a 50-50 record over the last two years with three wins against England and one against Australia (and an equal number of losses).

NB: Sorry I made mincemeat of your post. Wasn't trying to be devious by taking your quote out of context or anything.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby meninblue » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:12 am

vindalf wrote:
sportbloggeradi wrote:T20 is the future for India


I sure hope you are wrong on that one. That will be the day I say goodbye to cricket spectatorship for good.

sportbloggeradi wrote: and India will be masters at it, both home and away.

It's curious that you say that because the format will always be a bit of a crapshoot for me. Maybe they will. Dunno. By the way, India isn't very good at international T20 cricket at the moment. They have a 50-50 record over the last two years with three wins against England and one against Australia (and an equal number of losses).

NB: Sorry I made mincemeat of your post. Wasn't trying to be devious by taking your quote out of context or anything.


I do watch T20 and have played a lot of 20 overs matches, but i never liked 20 over matches . I always preferred 40 over matches due to many reasons. So based on practical experience and learning's i don't care as much about T20 format.

IMO fielding is one aspect which will be benefited in T20. The fielders are put under real pressure in that format more than they are in ODI and tests. Ground fielding shall get better and it will bring some change in fielding methods which are taught at the first level of proper cricket i.e. club cricket. Off course only a good fielder or a good fielding coach will be able to modify those basics fielding methods to suit this format and be effective whilst batsman try to take frequent quick singles or risky singles unlike in other formats.

As far as the 50-50 record, i said that India will be very good in T20 in next few years. By then we will have created a vast pool of quality T20 cricketers. Injuries to our core T20 players won't be a severe issue at all as we will have a very good bench strength.
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Re: India the Future?

Postby vindalf » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:02 am

I get what you are saying about India and T20.

Asia Cup (will there be no end to this torrent of one-day tournaments?) starts soon. Indian team selection on the 29th. I'm certainly looking forward to that one - the selection meeting outcome that is, not that tournament ;)
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