India the Test Future?

[dan08]

Short and not so sweet.

[ddb]

Short and not so sweet.

Whoops gave wrong link.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?ix=sea&s ... n+failings

Click on first link and you should be able to read it all.

Liked this bit(digesting the rest):

Over four Tests lost by colossal margins, India made just one unforced change - and that, replacing the handy all-rounder Ravi Ashwin with the 10th-rate trundler Vinay Kumar at Perth, was probably a mistake.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Great polemic. Not all of which is fair.

[andy]

so when dravid retires, what do people think about the no3 position?

Will Kohli go up to 3? Rahane,pujara, or rohit?

[Kim]

Short and not so sweet.

Whoops gave wrong link.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?ix=sea&s ... n+failings

Click on first link and you should be able to read it all.

Liked this bit(digesting the rest):

Over four Tests lost by colossal margins, India made just one unforced change - and that, replacing the handy all-rounder Ravi Ashwin with the 10th-rate trundler Vinay Kumar at Perth, was probably a mistake.

Thats brutal. What parts are inaccurate?

[dan08]

so when dravid retires, what do people think about the no3 position?

Will Kohli go up to 3? Rahane,pujara, or rohit?

I would go:

3. Kohli, 4. Tendulkar, 5. Rohit, 6. Pujara.

Possibly swap Kohli and Pujara's positions.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Well, there's no need for India to stand and take the abuse of the crowds or the opposition.

[ddb]

And the IPL point is not really fair. We were number 1 for 20 months while IPL existed. There's no doubt it might affect some things though but not current test players willingness to win.

[Kim]

What about Sachins behaviour? Doesnt sound like him.

Re the IPL point obv it has made them richer - but werent the top guys rich anyway?

[Arthur Crabtree]

SRT had a Q&A broadcast on Sky during a break, which probably came from C9. He doesn't say much generally though. That's my impression. In England, it was usually Dravid that talked to the cameras. SRT doesn't seem to attract the eye in the field either.

[andy]

i wonder if the tension surrounding sachin's 100 is maybe taking his toll and is starting to feel a little bit wound up.....

[GGAS]

Sehwag has a dig at Sachin for not talking to the media! I think Sehwag should be the one who doesn't talk to the media...

around 11.37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... NwCPnJeKs#!

[ddb]

India TV are the biggest pile of crap going. Another thing that players from other countries do not experience.

[yuppie]

And the IPL point is not really fair. We were number 1 for 20 months while IPL existed. There's no doubt it might affect some things though but not current test players willingness to win.

The players that made India number 1 played test cricket before the IPL was even thought of. The players that were meant to replace them are now IPL players and maybe not concentrating on test cricket. Thus not creating the pressure on replacing the current test players.

[ddb]

And the IPL point is not really fair. We were number 1 for 20 months while IPL existed. There's no doubt it might affect some things though but not current test players willingness to win.

The players that made India number 1 played test cricket before the IPL was even thought of. The players that were meant to replace them are now IPL players and maybe not concentrating on test cricket. Thus not creating the pressure on replacing the current test players.

I'll quote from the article I put in the other thread that puts it better than I can: (FYI Pujara, Rahane, Mukund have played about 6 IPL games between them)

Most of the discourse around the whitewashes in England and Australia has focussed on systemic, structural changes that need to be implemented for the long-term. In England the talk was mostly about poor preparation, lack of tour games, pathetic injury management and the absence of bench strength. In Australia (since there has not been too many apparent reasons apart from the fact that the team has comprehensively crumbled), the postmortem has got even more hardcore – reduce the number of Ranji teams, overhaul pitches across the country, eliminate the demonic IPL and so on.

(I do plan a whole post about this but as an aside: I don’t watch the IPL but that’s not because I think it’s evil. I don’t watch it because the brand of cricket doesn’t appeal to me. I don’t watch certain kinds of movies. That doesn’t mean those movies are bad. It just means they don’t fit in with my taste.

Also, the IPL might have played a part in India’s shoddy performances in England – especially when it came to players not recovering from injuries – but it has little to do with this whitewash in Australia. I don’t agree with people who say the batsmen in this team have been spoilt by the IPL. All of them (including Kohli) were grounded in first-class cricket and their techniques were shaped in the playing fields of the Ranji Trophy.

Also, the IPL sure has plenty of negatives – and I don’t have to highlight every point here - but it’s simplistic to think it’s all bad. The IPL is not all about the top stars earnings millions. It’s also about many first-class cricketers being more financially secure. It’s about fewer talented players giving up the game at the lower levels. It’s about players like Badrinath sharing the dressing-room, and getting inspired, by those like Michael Hussey, the kind of interaction that would have never happened earlier.