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Re: Pakistan Cricket

Postby Red Devil » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:39 pm

from_the_stands wrote:It's tragic, what's happening with Pakistani cricket. One of my best days ever was sitting in the member's stand at the MCG for the 1992 World Cup final. Pakistan were absolutely amazing. Eighteen years later, I don't think things could possibly get any worse.


I remember that (on the Tv though :( ) ... that seems like a long time ago now
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Re: Pakistan Cricket

Postby yorker_129-7 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:59 pm

So how long before Butt and Amir are back in the team? I give it 12 months.
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Re: Pakistan Cricket

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:25 am

yorker_129-7 wrote:So how long before Butt and Amir are back in the team? I give it 12 months.


Wouldn't surprise me if it was less than that.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby amitb » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:51 pm

The players remain suspended after ICC hearing this weekend

http://www.cricinfo.com/pakistan/conten ... 84502.html

As usual Butt and Aamer calls this as a conspiracy against Pakistan.

Amir echoed similar concerns. "Before leaving for Dubai we felt the case will be in our favour, but when he gave the decision it looked as if he had written the decision before," he told reporters at the airport. "We went for the truth but this could be a conspiracy against Pakistan, to tarnish Pakistan's reputation."

Why is that everytime someone points finger at Pakistan its a conspiracy? Seriously they need to pull out something new :no

http://www.cricinfo.com/pakistan/conten ... 84745.html
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby englandmad666 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:20 am

amitb wrote:The players remain suspended after ICC hearing this weekend

http://www.cricinfo.com/pakistan/conten ... 84502.html

As usual Butt and Aamer calls this as a conspiracy against Pakistan.

Amir echoed similar concerns. "Before leaving for Dubai we felt the case will be in our favour, but when he gave the decision it looked as if he had written the decision before," he told reporters at the airport. "We went for the truth but this could be a conspiracy against Pakistan, to tarnish Pakistan's reputation."

Why is that everytime someone points finger at Pakistan its a conspiracy? Seriously they need to pull out something new :no

http://www.cricinfo.com/pakistan/conten ... 84745.html


Because they always feel victimised against yet they dont help themselves at all. What do they seriously expect that everything should be brushed under the carpet and for us all to forget what happened? These 3 players and butt ruined a good summer of cricket with there actions and to be honest im bored of it, but any money butt isnt brought to reprimand for his ramblings nor will be the players and i fully expect them to be back in four years with more controversys.

Until then good riddance of that group of clowns.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Borges » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:14 pm

Suresh Raina manages to stay under ICC radar
... news came to the surface that, India’s young batsman Suresh Raina was seen numerous times with a woman believed to be an associate of an illegal bookmaker during India’s tour to Sri Lanka.

According to reports, video footage was handed over to the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) by the Sri Lankan cricket board, after the footage was taken from the CCTV installed in the hotels where the players were staying.

International Cricketing body came out with a statement that it expects the Board of Control for Cricket in India and the Sri Lankan cricket board to resolve this matter between them.

Perhaps the most confusing part of this incident was that, why wasn’t Suresh Raina reported to the International Cricket Council? Why did the Sri Lankan cricket board give the CCTV evidence to the BCCI and not to the International Cricket Council? And why was the Board of Control for Cricket in India quiet after receiving the video evidence?


- http://blogs.bettor.com/Suresh-Raina-ma ... dar-a38225

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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby DeltaAlpha » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:44 pm

But there doesn't seem to be any evidence of illegal activity. It's not illegal to be seen in someone's company, is it? And the woman is only "believed to be an associate of an illegal bookmaker", so presumably no evidence of that either. Sounds like muck-stirring to me.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Borges » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:25 pm

But there doesn't seem to be any evidence of illegal activity. It's not illegal to be seen in someone's company, is it? And the woman is only "believed to be an associate of an illegal bookmaker", so presumably no evidence of that either.

There may well be nothing in it, as there was nothing in the Oval ODI between England and Pakistan, which the ICC was not merely quick to investigate, but also quick to announce to the world that an investigation was under way.

Then too, there was no evidence, but just the mere possibility, of illegal activity. If it is not illegal to be seen in someone's company, it was also not illegal to score certain number of runs in certain overs. And if the woman is only "believed to be an associate of an illegal bookmaker", the scoring pattern in the Oval ODI was only believed to be suspicious, that too by an English newspaper.

The credibility that the ACU of the ICC has is almost nonexistent; the least they can do is not be glaringly inconsistent.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby D/L » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:02 pm

DeltaAlpha wrote:But there doesn't seem to be any evidence of illegal activity. It's not illegal to be seen in someone's company, is it? And the woman is only "believed to be an associate of an illegal bookmaker", so presumably no evidence of that either. Sounds like muck-stirring to me.

I agree. Evidence in this case seems to be almost so flimsy as to be non-existent, DA; hardly worth repeating, in fact.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby amitb » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:23 pm

Borges wrote:
But there doesn't seem to be any evidence of illegal activity. It's not illegal to be seen in someone's company, is it? And the woman is only "believed to be an associate of an illegal bookmaker", so presumably no evidence of that either.

There may well be nothing in it, as there was nothing in the Oval ODI between England and Pakistan, which the ICC was not merely quick to investigate, but also quick to announce to the world that an investigation was under way.

Then too, there was no evidence, but just the mere possibility, of illegal activity. If it is not illegal to be seen in someone's company, it was also not illegal to score certain number of runs in certain overs. And if the woman is only "believed to be an associate of an illegal bookmaker", the scoring pattern in the Oval ODI was only believed to be suspicious, that too by an English newspaper.

The credibility that the ACU of the ICC has is almost nonexistent; the least they can do is not be glaringly inconsistent.


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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby Borges » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:39 pm

Yup, apples and oranges -fruits that are subjected to scrutiny prior to their consumption, if there is the possibility of something rotten inside.
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Re: Pakistan Cricket

Postby keshto » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:52 am

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/486103.html

If any of this is true than i feel for Pakistan cricket fans! That would really not be ideal for the final ODI!
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Re: Pakistan Cricket

Postby Stroller95 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:14 am

I would be :o except nothing can surprise me from the Pak team any more.
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Re: Pakistan Cricket

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:17 am

"leaving pakistan cricket because get bad msg fr 1 man fr lose the match in last game.



I was hoping this sort of thing had been beaten given the amount of scutiny that Pakistan cricket would be under but I was obviously wrong.
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Re: Pakistan Spot Fixing?

Postby mikesiva » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:16 am

Finally, Pakistan find a keeper who can not only keep well behind the wicket, but can also bat well with the tail, and what happens? he's allegedly threatened for refusing to throw his wicket away for match-fixers....
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"In his only public comment since fleeing from Dubai and arriving in London on Monday, Pakistan wicketkeeper Zulqarnain Haider confirmed that he had received threats from unidentified people following his team's one-wicket win in the fourth ODI against South Africa and was told to get in line for the fifth match. Speaking to Geo, a leading Pakistani news channel, Haider was understandably guarded about events of the previous 24 hours but seemed to indicate that he had sought some kind of "protection" from British authorities. He is thought to have been detained at Heathrow by immigrantion authorities for nearly four hours, before he moved to an undisclosed location."
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