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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:44 pm

westoelad wrote:
Durhamfootman wrote:I see no reason why the CC couldn't have carried on while the rounders was on. So many overseas and white ball only players in the squads.

looking at the final last night Warks had 3 players who would have been available to play CC cricket and Hampshire had 5 assuming England made Overton and Livingstone available.... if they were Durham players they certainly wouldn't have been..... they'd have needed a rest

A watered down CC certainly wont help develop England test players. Nor would I care to watch a Durham red ball side next season shorn of Bedingham,Carse, Potts and Raine. Rushy also likely.

Maybe Coughlin could be snapped up too ;)
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:46 pm

the best way to develop England test players seems to be a fairly moot point

None are being developed anyway
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Durhamfootman » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:17 pm

SP gets some of his wish.... Jordan is offski at the end of the season... off to play T20 for Surrey. He is being replaced by Steve Finn who will at least try to play some actual cricket for Sussex if his body holds up. Salt is off to Lancs who have just lost Alex Davies to Warks. Harris is off to Glammy who are also trying to nab Critchley from Derbys, so the MIddle have drawn up a list of 'quality fast bowlers' to replace Harris and Finn. I reckon they'll try to snatch Carse. the MIddle also have to suffer the ignomy of being so desperate that they have to sign Stonetosser from their London rivals who were desperate to get rid after finding that Durham aren't as daft as they look

confused?

you will be

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby westoelad » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:03 am

Proposed schedule for next year. T20 scheduled a little earlier and conference system to remain for CC.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby sussexpob » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:56 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:SP gets some of his wish.... Jordan is offski at the end of the season... off to play T20 for Surrey


Is there a better example that shows how damaged English cricket is than with Chris Jordan?

You sign him at 24 with a bowling average near 40, having not played any limited overs cricket. You make a commitment to play him and invest time and effort into turning his career round; he repays you with excellent performance, but just as you think you are in a title race, England pick him for the end of the summer and you dont win any of the last 5 games and finish in 3rd.

He then spends the next couple of years with England before signing a new deal after accepting his international career was in jeopardy, at the same time starts playing T20 leagues and is never available, misses the start of a county season so he can play cage cricket in the UKC, finally turns up to do something, then promptly tells you after hes finally played for you that he accepted a better offer from the county that decided years ago they were too good for him .

Surrey will probably be happy for him to turn up for 4 weeks in August and pay him 4 times more. But lost in all the crap is the fact once again the system shows there is no incentive to produce international all format players for England, because they simply never play for your county.

Salt too... signed ages ago, gets an international cap after finally paying off on his talent, buggers off elsewhere.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Durhamfootman » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:22 pm

T20 finals day, it would appear

I didn't even know and I'm a cricket fan

perhaps the ECB should rethink their marketing strategy
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:41 pm

I always find out from you Durham. I thought you were the ECBs marketing strategy.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Durhamfootman » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:13 pm

well, then clearly I need to be sacked

or better still promoted to a better paid job, just to get rid of me
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:35 pm

You need assistants to do the work who you can blame when things go wrong. Like a government minister.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:52 am

Kent bring it home

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby sussexpob » Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:08 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:In other news, Matt Prior has had a right old go at the Sussex hierarchy
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/cou ... ndrew.html


So the lesson here is what?

Counties that take players at a low ebb that no one wants, and turns them back into international cricketers at a decent rate are examples of bad setups, because said players then are offered four times more at counties that host international cricket? Sounds fair.

So it was Surrey who took a retired Reece Topley, paid for his expensive medical treatment, gave him the facilities and time to get back to health, and revived his international career? Tymal Mills? How many counties would have given up on him back in 2014-15 when his back condition was uncovered? His original county did. Who, again, paid for his treatment and is the reason hes currently playing in a world cup? Who took Chris Jordan from slipping out the game and turned him into an international cricketer? Who found Jofra Archer and turned him into a great prospect? Who took Laurie Evans failing career and turned him into a world T20 star? Who took Ollie Robinson from being an untouchably toxic example of a thrown away talent and gave him an opportunity when no one else would?

And the coaches? Jon Lewis was offered the ECB Youth Development head role, and has since graduated to the first team fast bowling coach with man touting him as a possible head coach for the national team - no one would reject that opportunity. Hoppo left to be the ECB head of fielding coaching. Dizzy went back to his home club because he wants the Australia job eventually. Yardy got a massive promotion at NSW as batting coach. None of those are remotely the clubs fault and were unavoidable. People are turning down England or high profile jobs elsewhere to stay at a small county team, NO ONE. And the academy replacement was made with a man much sought after elsewhere, so where the idea we've lost talent from is anyone's guess.... how many counties have an academy coach who has also been head coach of a frigging test team?

And for young players getting no support? We gave county debut's to a 16 and 17 year old this year... 2/3s of our players this year were under 21 or under. IS giving games and opportunities to youth players not supporting them? Of course, what does Prior base this point on? "Well, when I was at Sussex we had x,y,z quality player".....

We also had Spen Cama's inheritance millions back then you total, utter moron. I mean, call me stupid but having 15 million quid paying the wage bill for the decade might have something to do with your capacity to retain and attract quality cricketers.

If you want to know whats wrong with Sussex, its the fact teams like Surrey can throw away talent like water and then just resign it at will when other teams develop it.

Not many sides as small as Sussex have turned around or produced as many cricketers. What do they get to show for that though? Pretty much nothing. As soon as younger player show promise, moneybags Surrey et al come swarming. Very little incentive for teams like Sussex to produce class players. You just invest in the talent for someone else to benefit from it as soon as it steps up.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:17 pm

I thought that might make you raise an eyebrow, SP

I got the impression that Prior just doesn't like Rob Andrew
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby westoelad » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:47 pm

Ben Brown released from his contract with 2 years to run. Something seriously amiss there.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby sussexpob » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:25 pm

westoelad wrote:Ben Brown released from his contract with 2 years to run. Something seriously amiss there.
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/cou ... ussex.html


If he wants to get at a higher profile team to boost his chance of an unlikely test cap, win something before he retires, or even find a team willing to reward his services with more money in the twilight of his career, then I wish him the best and fully support him going off to do it. He's been an excellent servant to Sussex cricket and fingers crossed he does well for however he moves to - no bad blood from me.

Of course, the team letting him go can be looked at in negative light. You cant convince many people you are serious about advancing and improving if you get rid of experienced, on-form and quality cricketers.

But lets face it. we are a shambles, but we are also the perfect parable for what county cricket has become. Its a two tiered system nowadays.... if Surrey want your best players, they will get them.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (Domestic Cricket)

Postby westoelad » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:05 pm

Brown signs 2 year deal with Hants.
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