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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby dan08 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:57 pm

pompeymeowth wrote:Sussex seem to have been done by Duckworth again, 50 overs reduced to 35 yet their total required is only 56 less than Kent's 299. I just can't see how this is fair.

30 overs at that rate would equal 112 yet the total required is 243, the remaining 5 overs leaving 131.

Kent scored at almost 6 an over, yet Sussex were to score at nearly 7? Madness :stupid

You lost 2 wickets before the rain break though.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby pompeymeowth » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:24 pm

Even so it doesn't seem right. Not that it matters but I do think we need a clearer system. Anyway good luck to Kent it seems to be a good competition for them.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby dan08 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:27 pm

Kent guaranteed a home QF. :dance Haven't been to a match this year so i hope to make that one.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby D/L » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:28 am

pompeymeowth wrote:Sussex seem to have been done by Duckworth again, 50 overs reduced to 35 yet their total required is only 56 less than Kent's 299. I just can't see how this is fair.

30 overs at that rate would equal 112 yet the total required is 243, the remaining 5 overs leaving 131.

Kent scored at almost 6 an over, yet Sussex were to score at nearly 7? Madness :stupid

No, it's all about resources remaining. It's as fair as it can be.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:42 am

I see Glamorgan have been docked points again.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby DeltaAlpha » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:53 am

I'm not sure that I just see the point of this competition. It doesn't appear to attract great numbers of spectators like t20 does, or like decently competitive test matches do. Is it just to prepare county players for ODIs? I reckon there'd be better ways of doing that. I find them boring to watch - neither the interest of test matches or the intensity of t20, they seem to fall into a no man's land of being too short to be long and too long to be short. Or am I missing something?
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby Alviro Patterson » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:28 pm

DeltaAlpha wrote:I'm not sure that I just see the point of this competition. It doesn't appear to attract great numbers of spectators like t20 does, or like decently competitive test matches do. Is it just to prepare county players for ODIs? I reckon there'd be better ways of doing that. I find them boring to watch - neither the interest of test matches or the intensity of t20, they seem to fall into a no man's land of being too short to be long and too long to be short. Or am I missing something?


Mainly to replicate conditions for ODIs, especially with the World Cup in 6 months time. Originally the current format was meant to be over the summer holidays because so kids can attend live cricket, but not all counties are doing iniatives to get people through the gate. Also these matches aren't on a Sunday which rules out the working population.

Personally I'd go back to the Friends Provident Trophy of 2009, 4 groups of 5 and group stage matches played in April and May.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby DeltaAlpha » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:42 pm

... and 40 overs, AP. I used to enjoy that. Not too much and not too little.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:44 pm

I prefer to go right back to the days of the JPL.

Cricket just doesn't seem the same in colours.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby Alviro Patterson » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:23 pm

DeltaAlpha wrote:... and 40 overs, AP. I used to enjoy that. Not too much and not too little.


40 over was the perfect format from a spectator point of view. Matches starting at 1.45pm on a Sunday and 3.45-4.45pm on a Day/Night match, allowing the working public to attend after a shift or half-day.

Going back a while ago when there was talk of playing some County Championship matches abroad in March, could always play an entire 50 over tournament in Dubai or the Carribean throughout that month. That way domestic players get to play in overseas conditions as well as ODI regulations.

Then bring back the recent Pro40 League, but with a Quarter-Final. That way ECB admin, county players and spectators are happy all round.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby D/L » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:40 pm

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DeltaAlpha wrote:I'm not sure that I just see the point of this competition. It doesn't appear to attract great numbers of spectators like t20 does, or like decently competitive test matches do. Is it just to prepare county players for ODIs? I reckon there'd be better ways of doing that. I find them boring to watch - neither the interest of test matches or the intensity of t20, they seem to fall into a no man's land of being too short to be long and too long to be short. Or am I missing something?

Mainly to replicate conditions for ODIs, especially with the World Cup in 6 months time. Originally the current format was meant to be over the summer holidays because so kids can attend live cricket, but not all counties are doing iniatives to get people through the gate. Also these matches aren't on a Sunday which rules out the working population.

Personally I'd go back to the Friends Provident Trophy of 2009, 4 groups of 5 and group stage matches played in April and May.

It's entirely sensible that the domestic one day competition should follow the format of the international ones.

I find 50 over cricket more like test cricket and less like Twenty20 than the 40 over version, so I'm in favour of it.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:45 pm

Cracking knock from James Taylor.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:57 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Cracking knock from James Taylor.


Middlesex have most of their 3rd team bowlers out today, even you'd do well against them AC.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:02 pm

Might struggle against three England A bowlers I reckon.
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Re: Royal London Cup Discussion Thread

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:18 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Might struggle against three England A bowlers I reckon.


I understand that comment AC, I was confusing them with the Surrey attack at Durham.
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