English Cricket Thread

[sussexpob]

The test that always stuck out to me was in Chester-le-Street v Windies, pretty sure in 2009. It's entirely subjective I guess, but up until that point there was still doubt about him. He was unplayable at points, and after a improvement, it felt like the match he finally won people over for good.

I can remember back in those 606 days, it was me and Greyblazer Vs the world on Anderson. Everyone thought he was rubbish....

Hard to underestimate how lucky he was to get another chance after 06/07.

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The test that always stuck out to me was in Chester-le-Street v Windies, pretty sure in 2009. It's entirely subjective I guess, but up until that point there was still doubt about him. He was unplayable at points, and after a improvement, it felt like the match he finally won people over for good.

I can remember back in those 606 days, it was me and Greyblazer Vs the world on Anderson. Everyone thought he was rubbish....

Hard to underestimate how lucky he was to get another chance after 06/07.

In the early years he was playing ODIs as well, having good years 2002/3/5/7/9 so that kept him around Test selection.

[bigfluffylemon]

The test that always stuck out to me was in Chester-le-Street v Windies, pretty sure in 2009. It's entirely subjective I guess, but up until that point there was still doubt about him. He was unplayable at points, and after a improvement, it felt like the match he finally won people over for good.

I can remember back in those 606 days, it was me and Greyblazer Vs the world on Anderson. Everyone thought he was rubbish....

Hard to underestimate how lucky he was to get another chance after 06/07.

I remember for a time he was like the little girl who had a little curl. When he was good he was very very good (unplayable), when he was bad he was horrid - getting tonked for 5 an over. I remember being deeply sceptical about the call to drop Hoggard and play him, but then he took 7 in Wellington to bring England back into the series, and 9 at Trent Bridge the same summer to giveEngland a series win. But yes, I think it wasn't until that Windies series in 2009 that his selection became more assured, although he didn't exactly set the 2009 Ashes alight either.

I don't remember too many question marks about him after that summer, but I do remember doubts about his ability overseas until the 2010 Ashes - after he (and Tremlett) destroyed Australia for 98 all out on the Boxing Day test which led to England retaining the Ashes away, I think was the point we started to accept he could take wickets in all conditions.

[alfie]

The test that always stuck out to me was in Chester-le-Street v Windies, pretty sure in 2009. It's entirely subjective I guess, but up until that point there was still doubt about him. He was unplayable at points, and after a improvement, it felt like the match he finally won people over for good.

I can remember back in those 606 days, it was me and Greyblazer Vs the world on Anderson. Everyone thought he was rubbish....

Hard to underestimate how lucky he was to get another chance after 06/07.

Ha. Believe it or not , Sussex , this was actually one thing on which you and I were in complete agreement ! I wrote a long post on the old 606 in defence of Anderson - 2008, 2009 , not sure exactly - and predicted he would end up with 300 odd wickets (conservative , eh !) ... Got howled down by many...

He was indeed very up and down back in the day. Well meaning people trying to change his action didn't help. But I really liked what I saw in Australia back in 2003 in those white ball games...one magical spell in Adelaide stood out.

Think his first Test summer rather created a narrative about him : Zimbabwe and SA ...lots of wickets , lots of getting hit around. If he'd been a leg-spinner it would have been more accepted And then - for above reasons , and a few injury problems , he was in and out for years. Probably the fact that Harmison Hoggard and Jones were rightly in constant occupation didn't help him either. The decision to recall him in NZ in 2008 was a big call at the time - but it certainly proved a good one !

Amazing longevity. And as you pointed out earlier , he always bowled a lot of overs; so even more remarkable. Suppose there has to be an end eventually ; but I am not sensing he is inclined to call time just yet. Be nice if he could have a successful Ashes next year , if that is to be the finish line...

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I am hoping for 700 wickets during 2nd Test at Lords but with Broad, Robinson, Wood, Archer and Anderson in the mix (5 bowlers 3 spots) some bowlers aren't going to play every Test in 2023.

They always want one express man so Archer and Wood will alternate.

I was hoping Anderson was going to get 300 ODI wickets but he was 31 short. Hoping he makes 700 but you never know what's around the corner. He could pick up an injury and decide to retire.

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ODI Squad to South Africa

Buttler, Ali, Archer, Brook, S Curran, Duckett, Malan, Rashid, Roy, Salt, Stone, Topley, Willey, Woakes

[Arthur Crabtree]

So, a whole other team apart from Duckett.

Roy still there.

[Durhamfootman]

So, a whole other team apart from Duckett.

and Brook

[Arthur Crabtree]

Archer's return is probably the headline.

[Durhamfootman]

So, a whole other team apart from Duckett.

and Brook

probably the way to go, when you consider that in the current world test championship, most nations have played 9, 10 or 11 tests, but England have played 21 (might be 22 now)

[Arthur Crabtree]

I presume from this that Bairstow is still injured. Seems to be out a long time.

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Ahmed and Wood not going to NZ but Broad and Potts will go to support Anderson and Robinson. So I am guessing the fast man will be Archer or Stone as J Overton also misses out.

Anderson, Broad, Robinson, Potts, Stokes and ........

Mail
Suddenly, after a fast-bowling injury crisis threatened to wreck England’s glorious summer, there is intense competition for places. Over the past fortnight, Archer has been joined in Barbados for warm weather training by Saqib Mahmood, another of England’s stress fracture victims. Mahmood made his Test debut in the Caribbean nine months ago but broke down soon afterwards with Lancashire and has been out ever since.

Mahmood, 25, has been bowling at full pace in Bridgetown but has pulled out of next month’s International League T20 in the UAE with the Desert Vipers as a precaution, thus delaying his return until February. That return could now take place in England colours when a white-ball tour of Bangladesh — three ODIs and three T20s — clashes with the New Zealand series, which is not part of the World Test Championship.

Matthew Fisher and Brydon Carse are also back fit and could feature on the England Lions tour of Sri Lanka in January.

Rehan Ahmed will play for the Gulf Giants in the UAE competition.

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Squad for Tests in NZ

Stokes Anderson Broad Brook Crawley Duckett Foakes Jacks Lawrence Leach Pope Potts Robinson Root Stone

Two-day warm-up (red-ball): NZ XI v England, 8-9 February, Hamilton (11am start)
Two-day warm-up (pink-ball): NZ XI v England, 10-11 February, Hamilton (2pm start)
First Test (pink ball): New Zealand v England, 16-20 February, Mount Maunganui (2pm start)
Second Test: New Zealand v England, 24-28 February, Wellington (11am

[Arthur Crabtree]

No Bairstow!

[Slipstream]

No Bairstow!

Not ready yet. I didn't know we have a day/night match.

Think they should have made it 2 warm-up games of 4 days each. What can you achieve in 2 day warm-up game? Maybe with Bazball it will be played like a T20.

Meanwhile Sam Curran has been sold for £1.85m in the IPL, the most expensive player ever.
Punjab Kings - He’s probably one of the best all-rounders in the world, if not the best.”