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Surprised I haven't seen more Kohli on this thread.

Surely in an ODI XI with one player from each side, Freddie would be the Eng pick? Even in general, don't think he'd be too far behind. Probably my second choice after Klusener.

shankycricket wrote:Surely in an ODI XI with one player from each side, Freddie would be the Eng pick? Even in general, don't think he'd be too far behind. Probably my second choice after Klusener.

Must admit, I forgot about Freddie.

I know every body is likely to say "what about Lara AB de Villiers Sachin Tendulkar Joel Garner Curtly Ambrose etc etc" but given we are playing with present day equipment and my team gets to play a few practice matches I would challenge others to pick a team that would beat this one.

Pretty typical old timer response to pick 6 players who never played ODI cricket in the best ODI team of all time.... a 7th player you picked (Sobers) has a ODI batting average of 0, and 1 x 100 in nearly 100 domestic games. Entirely justified to ignore the guy with 18,900 ODI runs and 49 hundreds in comparison, after all he had a helmet on the majority of the time

Id love to see Bradman against quick bowlers from the modern era, not guys who smoked 40 a day and had poor diets..... probably wouldn't have got bat on ball.

sussexpob wrote:

I know every body is likely to say "what about Lara AB de Villiers Sachin Tendulkar Joel Garner Curtly Ambrose etc etc" but given we are playing with present day equipment and my team gets to play a few practice matches I would challenge others to pick a team that would beat this one.

Pretty typical old timer response to pick 6 players who never played ODI cricket in the best ODI team of all time.... a 7th player you picked (Sobers) has a ODI batting average of 0, and 1 x 100 in nearly 100 domestic games. Entirely justified to ignore the guy with 18,900 ODI runs and 49 hundreds in comparison, after all he had a helmet on the majority of the time

Id love to see Bradman against quick bowlers from the modern era, not guys who smoked 40 a day and had poor diets..... probably wouldn't have got bat on ball.

I see and agree with you sussex, bar the Bradman part.

Gingerfinch wrote:

sussexpob wrote:

I know every body is likely to say "what about Lara AB de Villiers Sachin Tendulkar Joel Garner Curtly Ambrose etc etc" but given we are playing with present day equipment and my team gets to play a few practice matches I would challenge others to pick a team that would beat this one.

Pretty typical old timer response to pick 6 players who never played ODI cricket in the best ODI team of all time.... a 7th player you picked (Sobers) has a ODI batting average of 0, and 1 x 100 in nearly 100 domestic games. Entirely justified to ignore the guy with 18,900 ODI runs and 49 hundreds in comparison, after all he had a helmet on the majority of the time

Id love to see Bradman against quick bowlers from the modern era, not guys who smoked 40 a day and had poor diets..... probably wouldn't have got bat on ball.

I see and agree with you sussex, bar the Bradman part.

There's no way Bradman would average anywhere 99 in this era but i'm sure he'd still be a fine batsman.

In my lifetime:

Gilchrist
Tendulkar
Ponting
de Villiers
M Hussey
Flintoff (better bowler than the likes of Klusener, Kallis, Cairns...etc in this format)
Afridi
Akram
Pollock
Lee
Ajmal

I think Freddie is a bit underrated in this format, maybe because he is so often said to be overrated in Tests. He, or KP, probably were England's best players in the format. Obviously, KP went off the boil. Trott and Gough deserve mentions.

shankycricket wrote:Surely in an ODI XI with one player from each side, Freddie would be the Eng pick? Even in general, don't think he'd be too far behind. Probably my second choice after Klusener.

I think Freddie is a bit underrated in this format, maybe because he is so often said to be overrated in Tests. He, or KP, probably were England's best players in the format. Obviously, KP went off the boil. Trott and Gough deserve mentions.

With the other 10 players I'd picked, the Englishman had to be a batsman

sussexpob wrote:Id love to see Bradman against quick bowlers from the modern era, not guys who smoked 40 a day and had poor diets..... probably wouldn't have got bat on ball.

With helmets, all the extra padding/guards, covered pitches and the new fangled bats, he may well average over 100.

Test averages have improved over the years - due to the above points - why wouldn't his? The art of test bowling hasn't changed dramatically over the years, and he did do ok. He was so far ahead of ALL his contempories that it puzzles me to have the idea that he wouldn't also be ahead of modern day batsmen. Physical skills and mental capacities aren't a modern thing.

I see no reason why his skills wouldn't transfer directly to the one day game.

If the requirement includes an Englishman in the side, and a batsman, look no further than Ted Dexter - the hardest hitting class batsman of his generation.

He'd love playing the modern game.

GarlicJam wrote:

sussexpob wrote:Id love to see Bradman against quick bowlers from the modern era, not guys who smoked 40 a day and had poor diets..... probably wouldn't have got bat on ball.

With helmets, all the extra padding/guards, covered pitches and the new fangled bats, he may well average over 100.

Test averages have improved over the years - due to the above points - why wouldn't his? The art of test bowling hasn't changed dramatically over the years, and he did do ok. He was so far ahead of ALL his contempories that it puzzles me to have the idea that he wouldn't also be ahead of modern day batsmen. Physical skills and mental capacities aren't a modern thing.

I see no reason why his skills wouldn't transfer directly to the one day game.

Yes he would have averaged well over 100. One thing a lot of people don't know also about Bradman is all the time off he had whilst in his prime. When he came back he was just as good.

One thing I do admire about the modern player is that they have impeccable diets and never smoke.

The Waugh Twins wrote:One thing I do admire about the modern player is that they have impeccable diets and never smoke.

What about Warnie?