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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:55 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Anderson again reported to be unlikely to play in the first Test. If Stokes still isn't bowling, he has to be a doubt. Which puts Ball back in the picture.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:43 am
by Arthur Crabtree
Anderson now hopes to be fit, but won't have bowled since the SL series. Stokes will play for Durham as a batter only before the Pakistan series. Situation currently uncertain.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:27 am
by Slipstream
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Anderson now hopes to be fit, but won't have bowled since the SL series. Stokes will play for Durham as a batter only before the Pakistan series. Situation currently uncertain.


No bowling at all for 3 weeks before 1st Test NZ, or 5 weeks before Ashes or 11 weeks before SA 2nd Test.
It will have been a month and 2 days since 3rd Test v SL. Not really recommended though.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:57 pm
by hopeforthebest
A piece on the BBC website says Bayliss sees both Buttler and Stokes pkaying as batsmen in the test side. He mentions the middle order so that suggests Root must move to bat at 3.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:08 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Unless Vince goes there. The press seems to be all over the place on selection. Might be some guessing going on. Looks like Anderson will be fit though.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:40 pm
by ianp1970
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Unless Vince goes there. The press seems to be all over the place on selection. Might be some guessing going on. Looks like Anderson will be fit though.


Maybe no new players at all then, even if Jimmy is not fit:

Cook
Hales
Root
Vince
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Finn

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:44 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Four bowlers. That'll never work. Two keepers though.

I think the idea is that Bairstow still keeps? So I'd guess Buttler will bat higher?

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:46 pm
by ianp1970
Wouldn't be my idea of a team either AC.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:48 pm
by ianp1970
So is TB thinking Jos can be a test number 5 then...

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:56 pm
by ianp1970
Root
Buttler
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes

As a 4-9 this would have both opposition and home fans quaking in their boots...

100-2 could become 600-8 before afternoon drinks on day 2 :clap or 10-2 could be 100-8 by tea on day 1 :panic

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:59 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
I've got a hunch Jos (JB2?) is being considered because he's got some box office value. A sensible route for him would be through playing for Lancs for awhile.

I don't know how it'll work. Every article I've seen has predicted a different plan. If he's coming back, I'd give him the gloves and bat JB1 at five. But journos are saying JB1 is going to keep.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:00 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
ianp1970 wrote:Root
Buttler
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes

As a 4-9 this would have both opposition and home fans quaking in their boots...

100-2 could become 600-8 before afternoon drinks on day 2 :clap or 10-2 could be 100-8 by tea on day 1 :panic


Vince hasn't looked good, but it would be harsh in the extreme to drop him already.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:04 pm
by ianp1970
Vince is at 3 in that model.

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:06 pm
by ianp1970
Is the squad announced on Sunday?

Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:16 pm
by Arthur Crabtree
Cricinfo says 'this weekend's squad' so maybe. These things aren't predictable anymore though.