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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:09 am

Given there will be rotaation it might be that the first choice eleven might not play in the first game (even apart from Root), but I was surprised to see Bess ahead of Leach. Presumably for batting.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby The Professor » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:07 pm

Bess or Leach appears to be the next big selection farrago?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:11 pm

Depends on a plausible candidate to bat at eight. If England pick three from Anderson, Broad, Archer, Wood, then Bess will play. If Curran or Woakes plays, Leach might get a game.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:24 pm

I know that Bess is a 'project', but up to now he hasn't even come close to part timer Roston, in either discipline. Of course he hasn't got any 'OMG it's a spinner, what will I do now?' England batsmen to bowl at, but he hasn't shown much in the way of either control or potency.... odd flashes that's all.

Then again he is the only spinner to have any recent match experience going into a must win final test, so I think he'll keep his place
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby The Professor » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:49 pm

In order of the size of the question mark surrounding their name: Buttler, Bess, Anderson and Root


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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:24 am

Can't imagine Anderson is feeling the draft off the door. It's not obvious that he's past his peak. Even if he is of an age that it would seem likely.

England are a long way from letting Root go too. They would have him stand down as captain first.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:38 pm

Haven't we been here before? Didn't Flower do this at one point?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:47 pm

hard to know anymore. He had a finger in every ECB pie
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:57 am

https://www.cricviz.com/ollie-robinson- ... et-weapon/

Our bowlers
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Anderson - 9.55
Broad - 18.95
Stokes - 37.04
Archer - 23.05 first class
Wood - 16.75
Curran - 25.55
Woakes - 27.52
Stone - 15.92 f/c
Robinson 21.50 f/c HS 110
Overton - 20.66

A lot to choose from. Rotation will carry on. Will Robinson make his debut this year?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Durhamfootman » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:02 pm

Enjoying a bit of a red ball resurgence after a history of injury and then seemingly being pigeon holed as a white ball only bowler.

Could he be a future Tremlett, and play a key part in a milestone moment test series?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby sussexpob » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:54 pm

Slipstream wrote: A lot to choose from. Rotation will carry on. Will Robinson make his debut this year?


England want enforcer bowlers who crank it up to 300mph and bang it in short, the minute Robbo gets a shot and does average half the England fan following will be calling laying into him for bowling in slow motion. I cant for that reason see him lasting long or getting a shot, unless he rips someone apart first up and buys time.

The thought of the usual England approach; wreck the bowler forever by asking him to bowl 10mph more than he's capable of, makes me hope in a way he doesnt get called up. The thought of another talented medium-fast bowler crippled and playing 3 games a year isnt that exciting.

Although the lad deserves a shot. Be nice when he gets a cap, hes been bloody fantastic for us.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:34 pm

sussexpob wrote:
Slipstream wrote: A lot to choose from. Rotation will carry on. Will Robinson make his debut this year?


England want enforcer bowlers who crank it up to 300mph and bang it in short, the minute Robbo gets a shot and does average half the England fan following will be calling laying into him for bowling in slow motion. I cant for that reason see him lasting long or getting a shot, unless he rips someone apart first up and buys time.

The thought of the usual England approach; wreck the bowler forever by asking him to bowl 10mph more than he's capable of, makes me hope in a way he doesnt get called up. The thought of another talented medium-fast bowler crippled and playing 3 games a year isnt that exciting.

Although the lad deserves a shot. Be nice when he gets a cap, hes been bloody fantastic for us.


He has been fantastic for you. If there is no Stokes, Curran or Woakes IPL then there might be a debut v New Zealand.

How tall is he? I have read anything from 6'1 to 6'5. Also can't get a reliable height for Archer.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:40 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:Bye, bye Ed

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/56822502


England scouts will be
Head Scout - James Taylor
Mark Alleyne - Gloucestershire*
Geoff Arnold
Ray Baker
Jack Birkenshaw - Leicestershire president*
Glen Chapple - Lancashire*
Carl Crowe - Lancashire consultant*
John Emburey
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Alec Stewart - Surrey*
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