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I can't see Trott playing for England again anyway

SaintPowelly wrote:I can't see Trott playing for England again anyway

if he comes through the lions tour with no issues then I cant see him not playing for England again

they wouldn't be selecting him for the tour unless there was an intention to bring him back into the full team imo

The more quality players you have competing for a place the better, rather than the other way round. If Ballance continues as he has done so far he's our first choice for No. 3. Trott in good knick though could compete anywhere in the top order in Tests -\I think he'd make a great No.5 actually. It is up to the present incumbents to perform - as it always should be.

Dr Robert wrote:I'm guessing they are checking to see if he is fit to tour, as in being away from his environment, rather than seeing if he can still bat. Therefore this Lion tour seems logical.

Trott can tour - his case is very different to Tresco's (who broke down in an airport WHSmith on his last attempt to tour with Somerset). Trott's problem, from what I can tell, was to do with burnout relating to his intensity. So the tour is good - it is a ramp up in terms of intensity compared to cricket for Warwickshire, and as you say it takes him away from his environment, but touring in itself isn't the problem. (Again, as far as I known)

He will be 34 by the time England next play a test ( I think ) and Ballance has made no.3 his own.

SaintPowelly wrote:He will be 34 by the time England next play a test ( I think ) and Ballance has made no.3 his own.

He's positively ancient then.

Seriously, I don't see age as being any great barrier to being a top class international cricketer, provided that form and fitness levels are maintained, coupled with the desire to play of course.

I don't think its a "great barrier", but I think the negatives of picking Trott far outweight the positives, he has no long term future, and England should blood the youngsters showing talent currently, like Ballance.

Batters can go on until late thirties. A big problem with a player is often just the other things. Do they still want to go on the road, away from their families. Do they still want to be in a dressing room. Do they want to do the same old repetitive training schedules??? Trott admits he was suffering from burnout. Why should that no longer be an issue?

The young England players haven't faced top class bowling this year, so one can understand why the selectors would like to have Trott back available for England with NZ, Australia and SA games coming up next year, not to forget Pakistan in the UAE. Whether he makes it or not is an open question but an in form Trott would be a great boon.

'The warning lights set off by Darren Bravo's decision to decline selection for West Indies' imminent tour of South Africa "for personal reasons" are too strong to be ignored. No less so is the continuing absence from any cricket since June of Kieran Powell. They are signals that the two left-handers, the most naturally gifted of the current West Indies batsmen, could well be the latest on the expanding list of professional cricketers overcome by the constant grind of global travel and worn down by the need to succeed in a demanding and fiercely competitive professional environment. The medical term for the problem has evolved from "acute fatigue syndrome" to "stress-related condition" to simply "depression". It is the second time in less than a year that Bravo, 25, has opted out of the game to which he has devoted all his young life; the same, unspecified "personal reasons" was the only phrase offered in explanation each time. There has been no stated explanation for the disappearance of Powell, 24, from the West Indies and Leeward Islands teams. Last December, Bravo quit the tour of New Zealand to go home early; three weeks earlier, his 218 in the first Test was a match-saving innings, the highest of six three-figure scores in his 32 Tests. He was back for successive series at home against New Zealand in June and Bangladesh in August, and was on the team that created international turmoil with its premature pull-out of the tour of India last month. On the surface, nothing seemed amiss with Bravo's game. His sixth Test hundred - 109 in the second Test against New Zealand - was his first in the Caribbean, fittingly at Queen's Park Oval, his home ground for club and country; his 124 in the third ODI against Bangladesh was his highest score in ODIs. As is now clear, he was struggling to come to terms with issues off the field. So it is with Powell, whose last innings were 28 and 0 in the first Test against New Zealand in early June, after which he was dropped; he hasn't been seen on any scoresheet since.'

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 02317.html

apparently Kieron Powell has also taken time out of the game due to a stress related condition as well..

It's difficult to see what to do about players who struggle to cope with the demands of international cricket. Providing decent support is provided, at the end of the day players have to front up and score runs or take wickets. If they can't do that then they're not going to be around long.

There's a suggestion in the papers today that Trott might be named in the party to tour WIs.

Aidan11 wrote:There's a suggestion in the papers today that Trott might be named in the party to tour WIs.

well they have suggested that the world cup squad might not go , so that would mean ballance, bell, root and moeen all missing which was our whole middle order last year