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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby sussexpob » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:45 am

The issue of pace (necessarily allied to suitable skill) being rather valuable on a tour of Australia seems to be one on which you are in steadfast disagreement with a host of rather better qualified people. You are of course entitled to your opinion ; just as I am entitled to disregard it.


Rob Key might be better qualified, but the hilarious thing about this is the Australian's noticed in Key's only Ashes series that he had struggled against pace off the ball, and that in the tour games against extreme pace of Joel Angel and Brad Williams (at the WACA as well) he made big scores. Waugh brought himself on against Key and got him out. The next text he put on Damien Martyn, a man with no test wickets, who then got Key out after a few runs, remaining his only test wicket. Key also registered a duck vs military medium in the warm up game.

Its a bizarre conclusion for Key to remember extreme pace working, because the Australia's literally sussed out it was the opposite, and used it against him.

Brendan McCullum's only tour to Australia as captain, he dropped Wagner for the quicker Bracewell...... NZ only bowled out Australia once in 6 attempts, in the first ever test DN game with a pink ball that was criticised for moving too much, but otherwise their attack was smoked around with ease. Wagner, the too slow for OZ man, then returned one of the best statistical performances in the modern age for an away bowler in OZ in 2019, during a period where Australia's bats were arguably the highest performing unit of all time at home.

Stokes averages about 20 since the 2013 in OZ. McCullum 28. Key 16.... McCullum won 1 in 11 in OZ, Key 1 in 4 and Stokes 0 in 9 tests....

Not really a fountain of knoweldge on how to win there, is it?
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby bigfluffylemon » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:04 am

Mott steps down as white ball coach.

After two fairly poor tournaments that doesn't seem unreasonable, although I do feel England are on a bit of a hiding to nothing with the schedule - trying to balance players across formats and against franchise leagues is getting ridiculous.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Durhamfootman » Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:50 am

First the ECB denied all the reports that he was to be sacked, then reports suggested he'd resigned, then the ECB announced they had sacked him

sounds like the usual ECB..... a sleek, efficient, well oiled machine, a lot like the Japanese bullet train and not remotely like the Charlie Cairoli clown car :?
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Slipstream » Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:41 am

Same squad for the SL series?
Crawley is doubtful. Will Stokes carry on opening and Lawrence fit in somewhere?
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:27 am

Didn't Pope fill in once when an opener was injured?

Only Crawley is droppable on form. And they don't normally drop him when he's runless.

Feels unlikely they will ask a front line bowler- Stokes- to open.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Durhamfootman » Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:53 pm

Durham look to have signed Emilio Gay from northants for next season, along with Will Rhodes from Warks. Both are top order players. Are they doing that because they think there's a chance of an England call up for Alex Lees at some point in the next year or two?
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:16 pm

England's squad to play SL. Lawrence will open as Crawley is injured. Pennington isn't fit either. Jordan Cox and Olly Stone come in to help Potts warm the bench.

Ben Stokes (capt), Gus Atkinson, Shoaib Bashir, Harry Brook, Jordan Cox, Ben Duckett, Dan Lawrence, Ollie Pope, Matthew Potts, Joe Root, Jamie Smith (wk), Olly Stone, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:21 pm

Maybe this means Sam Cook is still injured.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:32 pm

he was playing in the Silly last night
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:38 pm

I read somewhere he was next in line.

No call up for Ollie Robinson. Apparently Cox is an occasional keeper.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Slipstream » Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:09 am

England Lions playing v Sri Lanka XI in about 10 days time and I think Cook will be in that team.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby sussexpob » Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:58 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Maybe this means Sam Cook is still injured.


No, it means Rob Key judges players solely on how quick they bowl.

Olly Stone has 10 wickets in the CC at nearly 50 a piece this year and gets called up because he bowls quick :facepalm

Meanwhile Cook averages about 17 in the last few years, but he's crap because you know... he doesnt bowl quick.

Weird how pace doesnt' work against inferior batters but seemingly does against better ones.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:00 pm

Feels like there's a big hole in the cricket season. But I suppose that's filled by the hundred.
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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Durhamfootman » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:40 pm

Ben Stokes had to be carried off the field with an apparent hamstring injury playing in the Bollox tonight

The ECB make him play, even though it falls between 2 test series, to try and boost the profile of their very silly idea, so that hasn't backfired at all.... take a *modded* boo, Einstein

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Re: English Cricket Thread

Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:44 am

Graham Thorpe took his own life, seemingly. His wife has been talking about it

It appears he was battling with depression and anxiety, so back in '22 when it was announced he was extremely ill, but with no details, it was because of an attempt to take his own, which led to an extended period of time in intensive care. Since then he tried many treatments, but clearly they didn't work and he finally managed it last week

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