Spot Fixing?

[SaintPowelly]

Pakistan need to be banned ASAP, to stop this..I hope the ICC stop them playing in the World Cup

[captaincolly]

Pakistan need to be banned ASAP, to stop this..I hope the ICC stop them playing in the World Cup

That may be the only solution. Also agree with Aidan about spectators losing faith, there's also a real possibility that teams will refuse to play against Pakistan, when the England team were accused of fixing it was touch and go whether the series would be completed. Everytime Pakistan play there's some sort of controversy and it's getting to the situation where genuine mistakes such as dropping a simple catch will appear suspicious and when opponents and spectators start to wonder if something dodgy is going on the game becomes meaningless. It's not fair on the Pakistan players and suppporters to continue like this.

[Chris de Burgh]

It has got to the stage where to stop any more damage or embarrasment to Pakistan Cricket that a ban seems to be the only way for the PCB to sort out the problems it has and restore integrity to Pakistani cricket. It's very worrying that the situation has got to this degree but as mentioned before other teams will be wary of playing them. It seems the only way forward at the minute.

[meninblue]

Pakistan need to be banned ASAP, to stop this..I hope the ICC stop them playing in the World Cup

I wish this happens soon for the betterment of cricket

[sussexpob]

Your whole answer is based on assumption that somehow he knew he wasnt going to long enough in team which I have no idea where you got from.

I dont really understand this comment. It terribly silly when you consider that your opinion is also based on two very uncertain assumptions...namely...

1. He is going to play test cricket regularily.... and how many of pakistani youngsters have stuck around for more than a handful of tests? Unless your related to Miandad, or are clearly brilliant from the off, you get dropped after 4 games.

2. HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH Dont fall into the trap of believing everything ever said about Pakistan being true. Innocent until proven guilty, and as far as im concerned Haider either speaks out with some verifiable detail, or he can shut his mouth.

As for the basis of my assumption.... Now he got capped in T20 in 2007 and has played on average a game every 16 months since that, hardly someone who stuck in the team in that format. Also with the state of Pakistani cricket, who cant play at home, and who will probably be kicked out of cricket soon anyway, being a first team regular may not mean that much....especially to a non contracted player paid per game for a pittance amount.

[Aidan11]

The latest from Haider -

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/co ... 86443.html

[meninblue]

The latest from Haider -

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/co ... 86443.html

Haider has shown a lot of courage in this interview. Going further he has suggested tapping phones to be a solution as he has confirmed that many cricketers are till playing for bookies. ICC is very unlikely to take necessary steps and stop match fixing. They have certainly failed even with the Anti Corruption Unit in place. Are they threatened as well or they don't know their job well???? No doubt match fixing has been and will be part and parcel of cricket forever. With players being threatened it is certain that match fixing will be rampant and controlled by gangsters and their bookies, The trend will continue, other players will be threatened if they decline money. I can only conclude that players having good statistics are not involved in all this rubbish.It is very sad to see that the game has already been sold to gangsters and bookies.

[sussexpob]

Haider has shown a lot of courage in this interview

No he hasnt. I dont see any mention of names, I see a lot of "i dont know who it was" or " i dont want to blame any particular team mates"...... seems Mr Haiders crusade will lead to nothing.

Going further he has suggested tapping phones to be a solution as he has confirmed that many cricketers are till playing for bookies. ICC is very unlikely to take necessary steps and stop match fixing.

I didnt realise a sporting body could decide when it disregards human rights, in particular the rights to privacy. Suggesting the ICC can tap players private calls in the name of cricket, sorry thats the MOST RIDICULOUS suggestion I have ever heard.

[Alviro Patterson]

No he hasnt. I dont see any mention of names, I see a lot of "i dont know who it was" or " i dont want to blame any particular team mates"...... seems Mr Haiders crusade will lead to nothing.

If someone underground is making a proposition, chances are they'll never reveal their true identity. More to the point why reveal names to the public while Haider is in the process of speaking with the authorities?

[amitb]

It seems like unless Haider tells sussexpob the names of all involved he is apparently a liar.

[meninblue]

Haider has shown a lot of courage in this interview

No he hasnt. I dont see any mention of names, I see a lot of "i dont know who it was" or " i dont want to blame any particular team mates"...... seems Mr Haiders crusade will lead to nothing.

Going further he has suggested tapping phones to be a solution as he has confirmed that many cricketers are till playing for bookies. ICC is very unlikely to take necessary steps and stop match fixing.

I didnt realise a sporting body could decide when it disregards human rights, in particular the rights to privacy. Suggesting the ICC can tap players private calls in the name of cricket, sorry thats the MOST RIDICULOUS suggestion I have ever heard.

You have to understand that Haider is under threat from gangsters. Dubai is the den of few gangsters who are into business of match fixing. Considering that you cannot expect him to be totally fearless and tell names even he is in UK. It is not a mathematical question of 2+2 that he has to answer without any worries. He is a player who has done 60% of the job for betterment of cricket and still you say he has done nothing. IMO he has done his part and now its up to the authorities to find which cricketers Haider is referring to from Pakistan and other teams. You cannot expect Haider to the job of Anti corruption unit.

Anti corruption unit is more than a sporting body. It is there to get rid of corruption and hence i think they must be having rights to probe and tab call if they seek permission from government in that particular country if they believe someone is doing illegal activities. There is nothing ridiculous as that is one way to make task of match fixers difficult to communicate with suspected players.

[sussexpob]

I dont understand, tell me why I should believe this?

He recieves an untraceable call, from a man he didnt know, about something...... not provable, meaningless accusations.

He also claims the Pakistan team are taking bungs, but doesnt wish to mention names...... see above.

Its ridiculous. He either shut up and didnt take the heat, and just quit cricket, or he speaks out and uncovers all he knows, if in fact that is anything.

[amitb]

He recieves an untraceable call, from a man he didnt know, about something...... not provable, meaningless accusations.

Someone need to know basic facts first before casting aspersions ...

[meninblue]

I dont understand, tell me why I should believe this?

He recieves an untraceable call, from a man he didnt know, about something...... not provable, meaningless accusations.

He also claims the Pakistan team are taking bungs, but doesnt wish to mention names...... see above.

Its ridiculous. He either shut up and didnt take the heat, and just quit cricket, or he speaks out and uncovers all he knows, if in fact that is anything.

It seems that in spite of fans general belief that match fixing happens since decades which was proved by Hansie disclosing names, banning of few cricketers by BCCI, banning of few cricketers by PCB, Mark Waugh and Warne being warned not to reveal information that needs to be kept private during series, the spot fixing in England test series and now Haiders disclosure you still have a lot of belief in purity of the game. Good for you.

It seems that you are still a die hard cricket fan

However being in love with cricket having played club cricket for 4 years i am hugely dissapointed about the malices in cricketing circle. I am no more as passionate about watching the games. Scorecards and highlights plus occasional live games will suffice. Wont care if i miss a few games any more because i have reached to some logical conclusions.

[SaintPowelly]

I am no more as passionate about watching the games. Scorecards and highlights plus occasional live games will suffice. Wont care if i miss a few games any more because i have reached to some logical conclusions.

I am the same

He also claims the Pakistan team are taking bungs, but doesnt wish to mention names.

He hasn't mentioned any names to the public, we don't know what has been said to the anti-corruption unit.