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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:43 pm

Maybe implications for Root, as his successor then.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby backfootpunch » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:30 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:And a change of tone, after saying not touring would have no consequences.

There can't be no consequences sport doesn't work that way

Say hales or ballance dont go and the guy who does has a blinder

You can't then drop the guy who has had success and is in form
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby ianp1970 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:33 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Maybe implications for Root, as his successor then.


Guess you're right with Root.

Just hope we won't be repeating the Botham/Flintoff mistake of best player has to be the captain...
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Slipstream » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:09 am

Will the selection be one squad that goes to Bangladesh and India or players that do not go to Bangladesh picked for India?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:48 am

The latter. Players who opt out of the BD tour will be considered for India.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby andy » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:52 pm

ianp1970 wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Maybe implications for Root, as his successor then.


Guess you're right with Root.

Just hope we won't be repeating the Botham/Flintoff mistake of best player has to be the captain...



Jos Buttler's the ODI vice captain, so correct me if im wrong, wouldn't he lead the side in Morgan's absence?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby ianp1970 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:54 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:
ianp1970 wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Maybe implications for Root, as his successor then.


Guess you're right with Root.

Just hope we won't be repeating the Botham/Flintoff mistake of best player has to be the captain...



Jos Buttler's the ODI vice captain, so correct me if im wrong, wouldn't he lead the side in Morgan's absence?


Thought this was regarding test captaincy?
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:01 pm

Yes.

Morgan though is set to be replaced by Buttler. And Hales reported to be unwilling to commit to tour. He would create a vacancy in three formats.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:10 pm

On the subject of which, odd that nine of the top ten CC1 English qualified run scorers are openers.

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:47 am

What an awful article by Newman.

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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby mikesiva » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:21 pm

Funny, but aside from the large stone thrown at a bus when the West Indies skittled out the home team, I can't recall the West Indies suffering from any security issues in Bangladesh....

West Indians have played T20 cricket in Bangladesh without any problems too.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby m@tt » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:22 am

bhaveshgor wrote:What an awful article by Newman.

A character assassination was, sadly, inevitable. There will be more articles released like this, I'm sure.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby m@tt » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:29 am

Daily Mail suggesting that Hameed, Duckett and Dawson will be in the Test squad, along with one of Buttler or Foakes. And Billings and Duckett will be in the ODI squad.

Would be happy to see Duckett in either/both squads, and Foakes in the Test squad. Dawson is being picked on character and his batting rather than his bowling. If they want a different option to Ali/Rashid, I'd rather they go with Leach even if he is a rabbit.

Hameed has had a fantastic season. If selected, he's probably benefitting from most of the other contenders batting in Div 2 (e.g. Bell-Drummond and Browne) whereas he's scored a lot of runs against much better attacks. Of course it could just be first-season-syndrome, so ideally there would be an older player demanding a call-up through weight of runs. We'll just have to see.
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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:40 am

m@tt wrote:Daily Mail suggesting that Hameed, Duckett and Dawson will be in the Test squad, along with one of Buttler or Foakes. And Billings and Duckett will be in the ODI squad.

Would be happy to see Duckett in either/both squads, and Foakes in the Test squad. Dawson is being picked on character and his batting rather than his bowling. If they want a different option to Ali/Rashid, I'd rather they go with Leach even if he is a rabbit.

Hameed has had a fantastic season. If selected, he's probably benefitting from most of the other contenders batting in Div 2 (e.g. Bell-Drummond and Browne) whereas he's scored a lot of runs against much better attacks. Of course it could just be first-season-syndrome, so ideally there would be an older player demanding a call-up through weight of runs. We'll just have to see.


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Re: There may be troubles ahead: England selection issues.

Postby Making_Splinters » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:56 am

Even as a Lancashire fan, I'm getting a little fed up with the hype surrounding Hameed, a single good season does not make a great player.

Most of the plaudits seem based on his age, yet it seems to be missed that most of the top players over the years went to university whereas Hameed didn't. He's not even the most prolific opener in Division 1 this year. He needs time to develop his game, he's fantastic defensively and has great patience, but internationally he's going to struggle to score at all. Wasn't there seria concerns over the years about having a defensively minded opener alongside Cook?

He may come in and do well, but we've had a fair few openers at Lancashire who've been talked up then disappeared from international consideration just as quickly.
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