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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby SaintPowelly » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:23 pm

He gave enough abuse on field to warrant a 2 game ban, the racial comments were made afterwards.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby rich1uk » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:42 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:He gave enough abuse on field to warrant a 2 game ban, the racial comments were made afterwards.


that's not what it suggests in that article

it says the umpires charged him with a level offence for the incident and it is only following subsequent investigation of the same incident that the ECB have decided it should have been a level 3 charge instead

it doesn't say it is a separate charge for a separate incident

regardless of that I still cannot see why using the term kolpak can be considered racist as repeating what I said earlier kolpak can be from a variety of countries and ethnicities , if he had used the term against an aussie kolpak player would he be getting charged with making a racist remark ?
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby SaintPowelly » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:55 pm

rich1uk wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:He gave enough abuse on field to warrant a 2 game ban, the racial comments were made afterwards.


that's not what it suggests in that article

it says the umpires charged him with a level offence for the incident and it is only following subsequent investigation of the same incident that the ECB have decided it should have been a level 3 charge instead

it doesn't say it is a separate charge for a separate incident

regardless of that I still cannot see why using the term kolpak can be considered racist as repeating what I said earlier kolpak can be from a variety of countries and ethnicities , if he had used the term against an aussie kolpak player would he be getting charged with making a racist remark ?


I honestly think he would, remarking about anyones origin is wrong, race ( and racism ) is more than skin colour.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby rich1uk » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:55 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
rich1uk wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:He gave enough abuse on field to warrant a 2 game ban, the racial comments were made afterwards.


that's not what it suggests in that article

it says the umpires charged him with a level offence for the incident and it is only following subsequent investigation of the same incident that the ECB have decided it should have been a level 3 charge instead

it doesn't say it is a separate charge for a separate incident

regardless of that I still cannot see why using the term kolpak can be considered racist as repeating what I said earlier kolpak can be from a variety of countries and ethnicities , if he had used the term against an aussie kolpak player would he be getting charged with making a racist remark ?


I honestly think he would, remarking about anyones origin is wrong, race ( and racism ) is more than skin colour.


kolpak has nothing to do with someone's origins tho , its a reference to an EU loophole to get around quotas and nothing to do with race in the slightest
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby SaintPowelly » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:57 pm

rich1uk wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
rich1uk wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:He gave enough abuse on field to warrant a 2 game ban, the racial comments were made afterwards.


that's not what it suggests in that article

it says the umpires charged him with a level offence for the incident and it is only following subsequent investigation of the same incident that the ECB have decided it should have been a level 3 charge instead

it doesn't say it is a separate charge for a separate incident

regardless of that I still cannot see why using the term kolpak can be considered racist as repeating what I said earlier kolpak can be from a variety of countries and ethnicities , if he had used the term against an aussie kolpak player would he be getting charged with making a racist remark ?


I honestly think he would, remarking about anyones origin is wrong, race ( and racism ) is more than skin colour.


kolpak has nothing to do with someone's origins tho , its a reference to an EU loophole to get around quotas and nothing to do with race in the slightest


He has made reference to him being 'non-English', whatever the politically correct term for that is, its against the rules and falls under the racism umbrella.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:00 pm

looks like the old stat man got sacked/Removed from ECB.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Alviro Patterson » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:34 pm

rich1uk wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:He gave enough abuse on field to warrant a 2 game ban, the racial comments were made afterwards.


that's not what it suggests in that article

it says the umpires charged him with a level offence for the incident and it is only following subsequent investigation of the same incident that the ECB have decided it should have been a level 3 charge instead

it doesn't say it is a separate charge for a separate incident

regardless of that I still cannot see why using the term kolpak can be considered racist as repeating what I said earlier kolpak can be from a variety of countries and ethnicities , if he had used the term against an aussie kolpak player would he be getting charged with making a racist remark ?


Spot on Rich, at worst Gale has used an xenophobic slur in the heat of the moment.

It smacks of double standards by the ECB, who have stood by Jimmy Anderson for his aggressive comments to Jadeja and have done absolutely nothing of the abuse Moeen Ali received in the India T20. Also Daryl Mitchell made comments a while ago about there were too many kolpaks in the county game, other than the swearing it's not different to what Gale has implied.

I'd love it if Gale sues the ECB for defamination of character and wins.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:52 pm

Saying there are too many Kolpaks and picking an individual and telling him to go back where he came from are 2 opposite ends of the spectrum.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:10 pm

The original penalty was decided by the umpires, the ECB has subsequently and separately decided that the original level 2 punishment was not severe enough for the offence.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:19 pm

I see James Anderson is deluded in what he said to Jadeja.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:10 am

I've just seen the name Downton trending on twitter and clicked on it hoping he might have resigned.

Turned out it was for Downton Abbey.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby dan08 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:22 pm

Really bizarre LBW in the Asian Games
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby KipperJohn » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:42 pm

Many congratulations to the Bells on the birth of a daughter today.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:44 pm

The ECB has a new Chairman, Tom Harrison, replacing David Collier.

Clarke said they looked at people 'outside the industry'.

Or sport, as some call it.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby hopeforthebest » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:08 pm

KipperJohn wrote:Many congratulations to the Bells on the birth of a daughter today.


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