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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby rich1uk » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:56 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:While spot fixing and match fixing are completely different things, they both undermine the credibility of the game. Once you stop believing that players are trying their hardest to win matches then there is no such sport as cricket.

Chucking has undoubtably had a far larger impact on the game than spot or match fixing, but it doesn't effect the game in the same fundamental way that fixing does.


I can't understand how one can make money from spot fixing at cricket, what bookmaker in his right mind would accept a bet that the 3 third delivery in the 4th over will be a wide or a no ball. Match fixing is something that big money can be made from, as a straight forward bet that a team will win is not abnormal.


its not one big bet that is being made tho , its lots and lots of little bets that don't get flagged up by the betting sites software
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:07 pm

i thought it was done in illegal betting markets?
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:11 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:i thought it was done in illegal betting markets?


Yes, but not cash in hand. Large amounts moving raises the odd eyebrow far quicker than several small ones.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:20 pm

OK, thanks. I always pictured tough guys going around bars and offices, like in black and white gangster films.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:47 pm

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Arthur Crabtree wrote:i thought it was done in illegal betting markets?


Yes, but not cash in hand. Large amounts moving raises the odd eyebrow far quicker than several small ones.


But why would any bookie accept such bets, surely the details of the the bet, no matter how small, would signal shady dealings
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:28 pm

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Making_Splinters wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:i thought it was done in illegal betting markets?


Yes, but not cash in hand. Large amounts moving raises the odd eyebrow far quicker than several small ones.


But why would any bookie accept such bets, surely the details of the the bet, no matter how small, would signal shady dealings


There will be between 5 and 10 runs scored in the next 3 overs, there will be a no ball in the next ten overs? These are not shady bets, you can pick up many similar deals on football matches from big name bookies.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby ddb » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:51 pm

You can't bet on no balls.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby SaintPowelly » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:08 pm

As DDB said, I don't think you can bet on no balls, it will be things like how many runs will be scored in the next over.

The bowling of no-balls is a signal to the bookies that they are fixing.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Making_Splinters » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:44 pm

Potentially seismic ruling in India from the Supreme Court who have ruled that you can't be both a BCCI offical and a stake holder in an IPL team. Essentially means that Srinivasan must either retire from the BCCI or give up his ownership of the Super Kings.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby meninblue » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:35 am

Making_Splinters wrote:Potentially seismic ruling in India from the Supreme Court who have ruled that you can't be both a BCCI offical and a stake holder in an IPL team. Essentially means that Srinivasan must either retire from the BCCI or give up his ownership of the Super Kings.


"Supreme Court has struck down the controversial 6.2.4 clause that allows BCCI officials to own IPL teams. It tells N. Srinivasan to choose between his IPL team Chennai Super Kings and BCCI president's post."

He has been taken to task well by Supreme court. Got 6 months suspension from BCI post, also the elections have been delayed. Now this ruling regarding the matter. It is impossible to hold ICC power without being on board, but he can enjoy power in CSk without being on board by doing some deal with dear ones regarding CSK ownership. I feel he will opt to give up CSK ownership.

But i doubt Sharad Pawar will leave it at this. he will try to take over srini at BCCI with the BJP government being elected and the way things have shaped up with Sharad Pawars political party and the ruling BJP government. And BJP government has officials on the state cricket boards. Others will have to vote in his favor also considering political influence.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby GarlicJam » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:04 am

No doubt I am about to be educated - but how is this related to spot-fixing?
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Making_Splinters » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:43 pm

GarlicJam wrote:No doubt I am about to be educated - but how is this related to spot-fixing?


It's the fall out from the betting and fixing scandel in the IPL.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Making_Splinters » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:47 pm

In other spot fixing news, everyone's favourite no balls for cash bowler will almost certainly back in action soon.

I find it a little disturbing that the PCB are also seemingly willing to have Butt and Asif back in proffessional cricket. These two players refused to admit their guilt until they had no option left, it's hard to justify how an ex international captain who led a betting scheme can ever play the game again.
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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby GarlicJam » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:32 pm

Disturbing indeed. And if Pakistan select either of them, it shows that they have no interest in cleaning up the game.

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Re: Spot Fixing?

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:53 pm

Would they be welcomed back by their team mates though?

They will have left a sour taste in the mouths of honest Pakistan players who just want to play cricket the right way. They haven't being doing too badly recently without them either.
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