Second Test: England v India at Lords, 9-13 August 2018.

[Dr Cricket]

Even Ab only averaged 36 and he probably was on form and was playing at his best in that series.
How can you expect mortal to average 20-25 odd in that series.
only 5 batsman averaged more than 30 and only 2 above 40.
Vast majority around 20.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... ype=series

very harsh to criticise the batting on this series when no one barring Kohli, Elgar and De villiers were scoring runs and all 3 were struggling as well to get big runs.

[Dr Cricket]

India biggest issue is really Kohli and Shastri management.
Kohli is a poor captain but I can live with that because of his passion and aggression plus motivation factor but he really needs better coach to control him though, Shastri is useless, Kumble was a far better fit in it.

the interesting part is if Ganguly becomes BCCI president then Shastri is likely to get the sack.

[sussexpob]

Durham,

Kolhi wasn't fielding, done his back in apparently

[Dr Cricket]

Anyway got football to watch the sport I hate so much because I need to stop watching cricket and forget about it lol.

[meninblue]

Bhavesh, check the batting stats on CI for SA series and this series.

Also, it's just not playing poorly. There are whole lot of stupidity or blunders that's happening.

I am not expecting these T20 influenced players to bat like Sunny, Sehwag, Sachin, Rahul, VVS and Saurav. But certainly not like this as well that too together.

[Dr Cricket]

Another factor to be considered is Anderson.
Bloody hell he even getting better and better when he getting older.
Batsman have no chance surviving him in these conditions.
So accurate, Swing it both ways and even getting seam movement now then you considering that india been batting in the most seam and Swing conditions since they started recording this and with all this mere mortal are gonna struggle to bat in this series so far.

will be a different story if seam and swing movement was limited or hardly there and the bowlers having to work hard for their wickets.
if the batsman are struggling then the batting obviously got more of a problem.

[Dr Cricket]

Bhavesh, check the batting stats on CI for SA series and this series.

Also, it's just not playing poorly. There are whole lot of stupidity or blunders that's happening.

I am not expecting these T20 influenced players to bat like Sunny, Sehwag, Sachin, Rahul, VVS and Saurav. But certainly not like this as well that too together.

here the stats.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... ype=series

Also it is good to use your eyes as well not everything can be seen and decoded in stats.

[Dr Cricket]

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... ype=series

Stats not looking pretty.
most batsman averaging low 20 and mid teens.

insane to expect mortal to bat and score runs against Anderson.
even Kohli struggling big time against him,
Kohli not even scoring a single against anderson and is probably lucky not to be out to him 5 times already how the hell are mere mortal expected to survive against him in very tough conditions.

I know Adi you want india to win matches but seriously you need to still need to judge the players fairly.

[meninblue]

is sending somebody else out for the few balls before lunch called 'captain's prerogative'?

can't be expected to show some responsibility

doubtless he'll have asked Ravi *modded* Shastri if he thought it was a good idea, and Ravi said "man from del monte says yes"

................Boss!

They sent Hardin Pandya for press conference. Last series after severe criticism in Indian media when we won he said in PC "Where are experts now"?

Now that team made 107 they asked youngster Hardik Pandya to attend PC. There is no leadership there in tough times.

He was also spotted sleeping many a times while watching the match.

Cancelling warmup was his novel idea in SA and even reducing one day in England warmup was his and Virats idea.

Then they also drop Bhuvi who was best Indian player in first test against SA. Here too they make basic mistakes like selecting two Pacers in England.

This Virat and Shastri partnership has to end.

[Dr Cricket]

TBH Bhuvi only got dropped because they wanted Ishant in the centurian test match that was going to be up and down and obviously in a wicket like that ishant is more of a threat and then they had no idea what pace men to drop out of Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi and they went with bhuvi.

Wouldn't go far as say it was a blunder, if anything I will treat it as a positive that india got 4 or 5 seam bowlers pushing for a spot in the test team.

TBH doubt the centurian wicket would have suited bhuvi anyway so it wasn't really a bad call.

[Dr Cricket]

Anyway this series is an opportunity for a player to make a name of them selves.
I hope Rahul scores some runs in this series I do rate him highly and the management are idiots for not backing him more.

[meninblue]

Bhavesh, check the batting stats on CI for SA series and this series.

Also, it's just not playing poorly. There are whole lot of stupidity or blunders that's happening.

I am not expecting these T20 influenced players to bat like Sunny, Sehwag, Sachin, Rahul, VVS and Saurav. But certainly not like this as well that too together.

here the stats.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... ype=series

Also it is good to use your eyes as well not everything can be seen and decoded in stats.

I used my eyes, even opened them wide and I still see same scores. Show us the runs. Show the results. More importantly if the whole lineup can't score runs in some conditions at least make efforts. Even the decisions over which opponent great bowlers do not have any control like canceling warmups, selecting 3 Pacers for England matches, not to pick Rohit Sharma should be taken well. Even that is not done.

Yes Anderson is great, Rabada is great. Nobody has denied it. But every team has world class bowler. By that logic this pathetic batting should be accepted series after series. Can we atleast not bring T20 i game to test cricket. But they cannot even do few things over which great bowlers do not have any control. If you watch properly you will see there is total lack of temperament, technique, shot selection, determination along with other issues. The failure of whole lineup in two series on trotter is not the only problem. I hope you get the point.

[meninblue]

TBH Bhuvi only got dropped because they wanted Ishant in the centurian test match that was going to be up and down and obviously in a wicket like that ishant is more of a threat and then they had no idea what pace men to drop out of Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi and they went with bhuvi.

Wouldn't go far as say it was a blunder, if anything I will treat it as a positive that india got 4 or 5 seam bowlers pushing for a spot in the test team.

TBH doubt the centurian wicket would have suited bhuvi anyway so it wasn't really a bad call.

He was highest wicket taker in the match for India with 6 wickets. He also scored 37 runs, a lot more than what many specialist batsmen scored.

His batting average in SA is over 20. Given the happenings it was blunder. He has three fifty's in England.

To me that selection decision made no sense whatsoever. That's decision is still drawing criticism from Indian fans.

[Durhamfootman]

Durham,

Kolhi wasn't fielding, done his back in apparently

ah... fair enough

[meninblue]

Another joker gone as well.

Show some respect to the player.

I suggest you stop taking this moral high ground. I know how much i respect the players. There is no need to act like saint and preach to someone for using a word "joker". Don't make it look as if i am using some abusive or restricted words.

In 20,000 posts i have made on this forum you will not find i have used even one asterix word. I repeat not even a single one and i bet on that. Try using search option and check. Whereas you see how many of those have been used otherwise in lot of posts. Those words are fine over here but joker isn't ? Have you done moral policing for all of those words used.