England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

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Postby bigfluffylemon » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:42 am

Listening to the TMS podcast, I think Geoffrey Boycott has a man crush on Jos Buttler.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby KipperJohn » Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:56 pm

Looking at those stats Tres and Bell would have been a decent opening pair.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby ianp1970 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:51 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:SRs for England openers.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=batting


If this was listed in age order, would there be a correlation?
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:56 pm

In era? You can click on the year column and it puts them in order of debut. Amiss scored quickly for his time.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby backfootpunch » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:52 pm

You can just about pinpoint when the white ball stopped swinging loads when it was new in those stats

Up until the mid 2000s a Sr in the 70's was good going, then suddenly it became the easiest time to bat and strike rates rocketed into the 80s and 90s
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:06 pm

If you look at the players from all countries, it seems that openers now aren't quite the big hitters they were. Players like Jayasuriya and Gilly are up there still. Roy is, but he's just started. McCullum is, but the new players don't load the top end. It's the players from Sehwag's era. But with England, the new players are at the top, rather than those of ten years ago.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby backfootpunch » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:45 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:If you look at the players from all countries, it seems that openers now aren't quite the big hitters they were. Players like Jayasuriya and Gilly are up there still. Roy is, but he's just started. McCullum is, but the new players don't load the top end. It's the players from Sehwag's era. But with England, the new players are at the top, rather than those of ten years ago.


the list of highest strike rates ever in ODIs actually suggests that the biggest progression has been the hitting ability of the middle to lower order guys to club it at the end

the 5 players with the highest strike rates in the history of ODI cricket are andre russell, maxwell, buttler, ronchi and corey anderson

there are 22 players that have had a strike rate above 100 and 14 of them are currently playing

and apart from jason roy who doesnt really count due to a small number of games they are all middle to lower order hitters
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:50 pm

I was looking at openers, but yes the trend is openers scoring slightly less quickly, and finishers scoring faster.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:12 pm

England win the toss and bat. No changes, so CJ gets another chance to impress. Might be some swing early on with the cloud cover.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby backfootpunch » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:54 pm

roy was looking so good

what a way to get out
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby backfootpunch » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:28 pm

Big shot coming

Been a few quiet overs
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:13 pm

Fifties for Root and Hales.

Hales might be doing his Test chances some favours in this series with his consistent scores. And with his runs in UAE, it could be we can say he has shown signs he can cross over from 20 to 50 overs.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:14 pm

Looking a bit like Root wants to get Buttler in.
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Re: England tour of SA, ODI series, Feb 3-14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:29 pm

Buttler out first ball! Two in an over for Rabada.
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