WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

[from_the_stands]

The West Indies don't look like taking a wicket. This is awful.

[from_the_stands]

Steve Smith = superstar!!!

[from_the_stands]

Voges averages 481 against West Indies.

Some boofhead on twitter just suggested that the Windies must view Voges like the Ewoks did with C3PO in Return of the Jedi.

[Gingerfinch]

Doesn't get any better for the windies. I haven't seen one ball bowled but the scorecard tells a story.

[GarlicJam]

Same here, Finchy, dire stuff for the Winds. As bad as was predicted pre-tour.

[Gingerfinch]

Same here, Finchy, dire stuff for the Winds. As bad as was predicted pre-tour.

Sadly a tour from the west indies these days doesn't get me excited, unlike years ago. I expect it's the same for most Aussie Cricket followers?

[alfie]

I've watched most of it - and can admire a professional performance all round from Australia ... but can't get too excited. Unfortunately the West Indies just don't look like competing at all .

I feel sorry for Holder , who tried hard with the ball but had scant support. easy to say (as I would) that Samuels and Roach are not worth persevering with : harder to nominate replacements. Nevertheless those are two changes I would make...they aren't going to improve now so blooding someone (anyone !) else can hardly be worse...

[mikesiva]

After watching Endland South Africa for most of the day, gosh this is soporific: Holder is bowling good lines and lengths but at his pace on a true surface he isn't going to draw many a false stroke, Taylor bowls the odd dangerous ball but he's primarily a swing and seam bowler and when there is nothing going on he is another 80 something right armer, Roach is done at this level for my money, he simply does not do enough with the ball to be bowling low 80s.

Without Samuels to turn to to give another option, I'd throw the ball to Braithwaite just for something different. They need to get some fielders up off the fence to give the batsmen at least a pause for thought.

No mention of Warrican...just shows how ineffective this left-arm spinner has been.

Just when you think it can't get any worse...it does!

alfie is right...the potential replacements don't instill much confidence. Shai Hope?

But I do believe that Cummins will play next Test....

[Aidan11]

This is quite a pasting.

[Making_Splinters]

After watching Endland South Africa for most of the day, gosh this is soporific: Holder is bowling good lines and lengths but at his pace on a true surface he isn't going to draw many a false stroke, Taylor bowls the odd dangerous ball but he's primarily a swing and seam bowler and when there is nothing going on he is another 80 something right armer, Roach is done at this level for my money, he simply does not do enough with the ball to be bowling low 80s.

Without Samuels to turn to to give another option, I'd throw the ball to Braithwaite just for something different. They need to get some fielders up off the fence to give the batsmen at least a pause for thought.

No mention of Warrican...just shows how ineffective this left-arm spinner has been.

Just when you think it can't get any worse...it does!

alfie is right...the potential replacements don't instill much confidence. Shai Hope?

But I do believe that Cummins will play next Test....

Warrican bowled honestly but didn't get much turn or bounce so wasn't posing difficult questions for the batsmen.

The West Indies look like a side who don't want to be there, aside from Bravo, Holder and Braithwaite I'd drop the lot of them.

[Making_Splinters]

Same here, Finchy, dire stuff for the Winds. As bad as was predicted pre-tour.

Sadly a tour from the west indies these days doesn't get me excited, unlike years ago. I expect it's the same for most Aussie Cricket followers?

Strange to think that we couldn't beat them at the start of the year when you see such an abject performance at the end of it!

[Arthur Crabtree]

West Indies are competitive at home though. But it was still a poor result for England. I wonder if a tour to Australia (or SA, or England) is in WI best interests currently.

[dan08]

West Indies are competitive at home though. But it was still a poor result for England. I wonder if a tour to Australia (or SA, or England) is in WI best interests currently.

They aren't competitive at home. England were just hopeless.

[The Professor]

It is clear that, in the eyes of Australia, this is becoming a warm up for India.

[Making_Splinters]

West Indies are competitive at home though. But it was still a poor result for England. I wonder if a tour to Australia (or SA, or England) is in WI best interests currently.

Right now, the West Indies look like a side that are beaten before they even take the field. If you look past the fall out of the WICB and the players not getting on the tragic thing is you have a 24 year old captain who is the only player on the field you can say is giving 100% effort. How can any side progress when their two senior players very visibly do not want to be there. Samuels and Taylor are the only players in this side over 31, Samuels saunters round the field like he wants to be playing in the BBL and Taylor can't even be bothered to watch what is going on during a tour game after they had just been pasted in the previous Test.

How can you expect to see any improvement when these two supposedly senior players are setting such a piss poor example. A lot of people have leveled the accusation that KP was a similiar influence on the England side, but at least when he was on the field you knew he was giving 100% to help the team win.

The WICB need to stop saying they are going to support Holder and actually do it by dumping the toxic senior players and getting the players who have be cast out despite being comfortably better than anyone in the side back into the set up.