WI tour of Australia, Dec 2 - Jan 7

[Arthur Crabtree]

Taylor and Samuels have been two of their more productive players recently. Without them, no draw v England. And they don't have to be out there, they choose to play for the WI. They can go on the T20 circuit if they like.

Just cause you allude to it, all of the emerging England players spoke highly of KP. Only senior players have implied any issues.

[Making_Splinters]

Taylor and Samuels have been two of their more productive players recently. Without them, no draw v England. And they don't have to be out there, they choose to play for the WI. They can go on the T20 circuit if they like.

Just cause you allude to it, all of the emerging England players spoke highly of KP. Only senior players have implied any issues.

Samuels has had 4 decent series since 2012 and has only scored 6 centuries in the last 10 years, hardly the return of a senior batsman in the side.

I bring KP up because he was very publicly said to have had a negative influence on the side, even though that is somewhat unquantified.

[Arthur Crabtree]

I can see it's tempting to try another year zero, and dropping the over thirties, given their (mainly Samuels') torpor. But the alternative doesn't promise a great deal either. Hard to know what to do.

[dan08]

When players like Chandrika are in the Test team, i definitely wouldn't be looking to drop Samuels first.

[Toby F]

I can see it's tempting to try another year zero, and dropping the over thirties, given their (mainly Samuels') torpor. But the alternative doesn't promise a great deal either. Hard to know what to do.

If the first step isn't to sack the board and replace it with a modern management structure, which has the best interests of WI cricket as a whole as it's primary focus, then swapping around players is just reorganizing the deck chairs.

[dan08]

Not really sure what Bravo is trying to achieve.

[Arthur Crabtree]

I can see it's tempting to try another year zero, and dropping the over thirties, given their (mainly Samuels') torpor. But the alternative doesn't promise a great deal either. Hard to know what to do.

If the first step isn't to sack the board and replace it with a modern management structure, which has the best interests of WI cricket as a whole as it's primary focus, then swapping around players is just reorganizing the deck chairs.

Good point.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Not really sure what Bravo is trying to achieve.

Three hours for 15!

Not even Chris Tavare at his slowest was that slow.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Slowest Test ton, Mudassar Nazar in Lahore, I listened to on the radio, back in 1978. The slowest records, I presume, will never be broken.

[dan08]

2 runs for Bravo in the first hour!

[Toby F]

50 for Brathwaite. Good effort for a number 8.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Guppy has scored 76 so far while Bravo has nine.

[Toby F]

Good innings by CB but another great C&B by Lyon. Not much batting to come so it should end quickly after lunch.

[Making_Splinters]

Shows the gulf between the two sides that Australia are using this as an opportunity to give Marsh a bat. I can't think of many times when a side has been able to use a Test match as a chance to give a player batting practice because there is no chance they will lose the game.

[yuppie]

WI have finally shown some fight. Bravo showing that he does care on this tour

Australia will bat till lunch tomorrow and then have 5 sessions.