Australia/England/India Tri Series Jan/Feb 2015

[Aidan11]

I fell asleep listening to him. And I was only following on Twitter.

[Aidan11]

Here are the "highlights".

Try not to self-harm while watching.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Looks haggard. Looks like he was lying when he said they had a good set of players. Didn't make it all the way through.

[GarlicJam]

This promises to be an uplifting and positive thread.

[Dr Cricket]

Warm up games are really getting overrated now.
Got blocked by Chetan narula for not agreeing with him that india actually needed a warm up game for the tri series.

Basically india decided to have a net session in the middle of the wicket instead of facing a very weak Australian warm up team.
India only warm up game against england got cancelled because of the change of the test schedule.

Warm up games are only really good if you get good enough oppositions, India will still have a warm up game but just with their own squad using the same wicket that would have been used for the warm up game if they chose to have it.

India had 2 warm up games before the test series and it didn't even mean anything since the batsman couldn't even handle the bowler which gave everyone false hopes can see the same thing happening with the ODI warm up game especially with the big bash and England Warm up game making it even more likely Australia just sending very poor players to the game.

[Aidan11]

This promises to be an uplifting and positive thread.

Wait till we start losing.

[Making_Splinters]

Warm up games are really getting overrated now.
Got blocked by Chetan narula for not agreeing with him that india actually needed a warm up game for the tri series.

Basically india decided to have a net session in the middle of the wicket instead of facing a very weak Australian warm up team.
India only warm up game against england got cancelled because of the change of the test schedule.

Warm up games are only really good if you get good enough oppositions, India will still have a warm up game but just with their own squad using the same wicket that would have been used for the warm up game if they chose to have it.

India had 2 warm up games before the test series and it didn't even mean anything since the batsman couldn't even handle the bowler which gave everyone false hopes can see the same thing happening with the ODI warm up game especially with the big bash and England Warm up game making it even more likely Australia just sending very poor players to the game.

India can't complain after the way they treated England on our last tour over there when it comes to warm up games.

It's understandable that warm up games are usually against weaker players, domestic sides don't want their players getting injured in what is to them at least a meaningless match. Warm ups should be against a country's A side.

[Durhamfootman]

Moores: We moved our game in Sri Lanka. There was a change of mindset and Eoin will continue to drive that.


Do people really talk like that?

Steve McLaren does (or did)

Cut from the same cloth those two

[andy]

only difference is i dont think Moores owns an umbrella..

[GarlicJam]

It's understandable that warm up games are usually against weaker players, domestic sides don't want their players getting injured in what is to them at least a meaningless match. Warm ups should be against a country's A side.

Indeed. It is a positive for both (please note, I made the effort to avoid using win/win). Not (theoretically) much of a weaker side, probably a blend of experienced ex-test/fringe players and young up-and-comers, all with a point to prove, all keen to help out their country by denting the confidence/probe for weaknesses of the visiting team. A real challenge, unlike some fixtures that have been arranged.

[Red Devil]

Hopefully :


Dhawan
Rahane
Kohli
Rohit/Raina/Dhoni
Dhoni/Rohit/Raina
Raina/Dhoni/Rohit
Jadeja (will miss the first few matches, so probably Ashwin)
Axar
Bhuvi
Umesh
Shami

Rayudu
Vijay
Ishant
Ashwin


I'd have Vijay in my squad as the back up opener based on his Test form as a solid fall-back option.in case conditions turn out to be bowler-friendly and FTBs like Dhawan and Rohit start getting exposed. The rest of the squad picks itself. Ishant in ODIs isn't ideal but he is the least worst option we've got and does have a good ODI record in Australia.

dhoni's not going to bat 4. I prefer Rahane opening too, but they will go with Rohit.

you can't play Axar and Jadeja, they are basically identical bowlers so we'd have no variety and the batters would get set against that kind of bowling. Ashwin's not the greatest ODI batter, but I think he'll have to play.

so likely side ... Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Rahane, Raina, Dhoni, Axar, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh / Ishant

[Dr Cricket]

India can't complain after the way they treated England on our last tour over there when it comes to warm up games.

It's understandable that warm up games are usually against weaker players, domestic sides don't want their players getting injured in what is to them at least a meaningless match. Warm ups should be against a country's A side.

India not complaining since they chose not to have a warm up game because the players that were offered to them, they generally don't like warm up games anyway.
Plus a bit rich coming from england considering england send Counties 2nd or 3rd 11.
if I am right I believe india sent strong warm up games only the pitches were flat and seam friendly + no spinners were given, which australia did the same before last ashes series which many English journalist said it was fine when they picked no genuine quick to mirror the australian attack.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65801.html
that was a strong team but with no spinner
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65802.html
like wise with Shikhar Dhawan and pujara playing a game
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65803.html
Haryana 1st eleven

TBH if the opposition team want stronger team the country/counties should provide it.
I think from current teams only England like warm up games and generally want a strong team to test them and all teams should provide it to them if they request it although if the board chooses to doctor warm up pitches or don't pick certain type of bowlers it is up to them although those kind of things are quite sad especially in a warm up scenario.

[rich1uk]

India can't complain after the way they treated England on our last tour over there when it comes to warm up games.

It's understandable that warm up games are usually against weaker players, domestic sides don't want their players getting injured in what is to them at least a meaningless match. Warm ups should be against a country's A side.

India not complaining since they chose not to have a warm up game because the players that were offered to them, they generally don't like warm up games anyway.
Plus a bit rich coming from england considering england send Counties 2nd or 3rd 11.
if I am right I believe india sent strong warm up games only the pitches were flat and seam friendly + no spinners were given, which australia did the same before last ashes series which many English journalist said it was fine when they picked no genuine quick to mirror the australian attack.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65801.html
that was a strong team but with no spinner
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65802.html
like wise with Shikhar Dhawan and pujara playing a game
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65803.html
Haryana 1st eleven

TBH if the opposition team want stronger team the country/counties should provide it.
I think from current teams only England like warm up games and generally want a strong team to test them and all teams should provide it to them if they request it although if the board chooses to doctor warm up pitches or don't pick certain type of bowlers it is up to them although those kind of things are quite sad especially in a warm up scenario.

BiB - England don't send county 2nd or 3rd XIs , the ECB has absolutely nothing to do with what sides the counties field, that is purely down to the counties themselves

[Dr Cricket]

BiB - England don't send county 2nd or 3rd XIs , the ECB has absolutely nothing to do with what sides the counties field, that is purely down to the counties themselves[/quote]

I meant england can't complain either since Counties do it all the time.
Although I think ECB has some say considering I remember ECB chief offering a deal to CA saying you give us strong teams and we give you a strong team.
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/ecb-chie ... 2014-05-14

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cricketnext/ ... 14-78.html
Although we have to see what kind of team ECB or the counties provide.

PS ECB doesn't always have to provide counties it could be prime minister eleven/english lions.

[Making_Splinters]

India can't complain after the way they treated England on our last tour over there when it comes to warm up games.

It's understandable that warm up games are usually against weaker players, domestic sides don't want their players getting injured in what is to them at least a meaningless match. Warm ups should be against a country's A side.

India not complaining since they chose not to have a warm up game because the players that were offered to them, they generally don't like warm up games anyway.
Plus a bit rich coming from england considering england send Counties 2nd or 3rd 11.
if I am right I believe india sent strong warm up games only the pitches were flat and seam friendly + no spinners were given, which australia did the same before last ashes series which many English journalist said it was fine when they picked no genuine quick to mirror the australian attack.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65801.html
that was a strong team but with no spinner
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65802.html
like wise with Shikhar Dhawan and pujara playing a game
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-eng ... 65803.html
Haryana 1st eleven

TBH if the opposition team want stronger team the country/counties should provide it.
I think from current teams only England like warm up games and generally want a strong team to test them and all teams should provide it to them if they request it although if the board chooses to doctor warm up pitches or don't pick certain type of bowlers it is up to them although those kind of things are quite sad especially in a warm up scenario.

Teams the counties select are nothing to do with the ECB, as noted above, it's understandable domestic sides don't put out their top players. So, no, nothing alike compared to with what happened in India.

Counties have limited squads of players, and play quite a lot of cricket a year. Sorry to say, but in this day and age, a tour match means very little to a county.