Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:27 pm

My hunch (given how Machiavellian the ECB is) was Morgan was given the ODI job because if he did well, it wouldn't pressure Cook. But if Root is skipper, he will pressure Morgan, particularly if he does well.
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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:29 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/12/12/india-vs-england-fourth-test-day-five-can-tourists-avoid-innings/

Someone saying what I was saying at may.
The sign were there during the summer.


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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:30 pm

Do hope after this series England have good honest chat about the cricket they playing won't actually improve until they actually realise they not that good and need to improve in many areas.
For far too long they been kidding themselves that they doing good or ok.
About time they start actually question the results and performances.
The fact Ali is genuinely considered as a potential frontline batsmans says a lot of England problems.

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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:31 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/12/12/india-vs-england-fourth-test-day-five-can-tourists-avoid-innings/

Someone saying what I was saying at may.
The sign were there during the summer.


Any message is inevitably undermined by it being Scyld Berry delivering it.


True but he making good point and I think you made them this morning at 3 or 4 am.

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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:33 pm

Have we got the torches and pitchforks out for Bayliss yet?
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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:36 pm

Aidan11 wrote:Have we got the torches and pitchforks out for Bayliss yet?

No but they starting to come out for cook.
Only Newman supporting cook but Newman acting like an ecb man lately he also the only one attacking kohli, ashwin and not saying anything about Anderson.
The rest have call Anderson naive and stupid for goading India.

Think the rest have realised England would be better with new captain.

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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:40 pm

Cook will be ok if he ditches the captaincy but being as stubborn as he is he'll probably hang on for the next Ashes.
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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:40 pm

Saying that surprised berry think ashwin will be player of the series surely kohli will get it but then again they will give it to ashwin just so he breaks the record.

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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:40 pm

Our record under Bayliss is poor.
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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:41 pm

Don't remember calling Cook a noble cricketer!

I don't think it would be a great idea to give Root his first go in an unwinnable situation, on reflection. This is Cook's predicament. Give Root a start next summer.

It's just a guess that Cook will step down as a batter if he doesn't go now as captain.

Typical pompous nonsense from Berry overall, written like he's describing an under pressure PM on the cusp of war.
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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:41 pm

One wonders how long Anderson has left too.
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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby rich1uk » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:41 pm

Aidan11 wrote:Have we got the torches and pitchforks out for Bayliss yet?


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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:43 pm

He got a point though if cook doesn't go now he gone as a player and captain after the next ashes.
He not surviving another ashes defeat.

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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:44 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Don't remember calling Cook a noble cricketer!

I don't think it would be a great idea to give Root his first go in an unwinnable situation, on reflection. This is Cook's predicament. Give Root a start next summer.

It's just a guess that Cook will step down as a batter if he doesn't go now as captain.

Typical pompous nonsense from Berry overall, written like he's describing an under pressure PM on the cusp of war.


Article not written well he hasn't even really expressed his points well.
But he correct on the points he making.
At least someone looking at the poor England home results lately.

I was critised a lot last summer for having a go at the English team for the losses but I feel it is justified now considering those issues I highlighted are still happening now.
TBH I saw them in Bangladesh as well.

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Re: Fourth Test: India v England, 8-12 Dec.

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:49 pm

Really if Pakistan get thrashed in Australia this winter it will highlight how poor England were last summer. It was odd and stupid to claim 2-2 draw and being lucky to get a draw is a good result.

Not getting Pakistan wickets cheaply and then not scoring runs against a 4 man attack with no stamina is really bad.

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