Third Test. SA v England. Jo'burg, Jan 14-18

[budgetmeansbudget]

Richard Illingworth was the last English player.

[sussexpob]

Fidel edward might have taken a hatrick.
I know he has some special record like that.

No, I believe he is the only player ever to have taken 5 wickets in his first home and away test, ODI and T20....

[Arthur Crabtree]

148k!

[sussexpob]

148k!

Yeah, the bloke is nippy

[Arthur Crabtree]

Richard Illingworth was the last English player.

Total recall. Nice one!

[Dr Cricket]

Really all your stats says is that runs can be scored in all innings, same with wickets.

Not really trying to say anything else. Most (almost all?) grounds will show a tailing off in the last innings. Not so much here. Not to say it well get really flat. Maybe the pace won't last for four days, but there will be movement.

Wasn't it here that SA nearly chased down about 450 against India a couple of years ago?

yeah it was but that pitch was totally different pace/bounce was not normal.
basically you can argue it was a CEO wicket.
the ball did more in the first 2 days and then batting got easier but was hard to say if it was great batting by Kohli and Pujara or india not having the bowlers taking 20 wickets for that results.

Plus this ground hardly get a draw, it is a result wicket barring that game haven't seen any sign of team scoring loads in the last 2 innings.

[budgetmeansbudget]

148k!

What's that in imperial money?

[budgetmeansbudget]

Richard Illingworth was the last English player.

Total recall. Nice one!

I thought it was Ray to start with until I noticed the date!

[Arthur Crabtree]

Fast!

I think 150 is taken as the threshold for serious pace.

[Dr Cricket]

Fidel edward might have taken a hatrick.
I know he has some special record like that.

No, I believe he is the only player ever to have taken 5 wickets in his first home and away test, ODI and T20....

dahm remember one WI guy taking 3 wickets with his 3 ball, assumed it was him.

[budgetmeansbudget]

Fast!

I think 150 is taken as the threshold for serious pace.

Didn't Akhtar get to over 160?

[sussexpob]

Fidel edward might have taken a hatrick.
I know he has some special record like that.

No, I believe he is the only player ever to have taken 5 wickets in his first home and away test, ODI and T20....

dahm remember one WI guy taking 3 wickets with his 3 ball, assumed it was him.

I checked on this one, you are thinking of Jermaine Lawson.

In 2003 on debut he took 6 wickets for 3 runs (no hattrick), but then took a hat-trick against Australia a test or two after.

[Arthur Crabtree]

150=94. So not as superfast as I thought, but fast. i think 160 is the kph equal of 100mph.

[budgetmeansbudget]

Think the England batters need to launch a counter attack this afternoon, because you feel sure they'll lose wickets regularly.

[sussexpob]

Fidel edward might have taken a hatrick.
I know he has some special record like that.

No, I believe he is the only player ever to have taken 5 wickets in his first home and away test, ODI and T20....

dahm remember one WI guy taking 3 wickets with his 3 ball, assumed it was him.

I checked on this one, you are thinking of Jermaine Lawson.

In 2003 on debut he took 6 wickets for 3 runs (no hattrick), but then took a hat-trick against Australia a test or two after.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64018.html

Has there ever been a bigger batting collapse.... 80-3 becomes 87 all out.... 5 ducks